I should of mentioned my nutters are coming pretty good. I have 3 that spine out 97-100#s and the rest are in the mid-70# range. Nothing fancy at all, a couple are even gonna have 1 shield and two nanners. I also have started the dozen for the LDB and decided not to get real fancy, just a nice easy visible hunting arrow. We can take turns carrying it and shoot these arrows off of it and than we will raffle off the arrows on the last day of the hunt. We can do a seperate drawing even!! I cannot wait , it gets better every day. We have the same company donating the port-a-potty as well, which with Dads Chile is a good thing!! OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Shawn