Shot placement/recovery...w/photos

[Danny Roberts]

Whatever it was, congratulations !

[SouthMDShooter]

lung, liver, and paunch. congrats

[Pat B.]

liver and stomach, not a great shot but one we all have made..

[Orion]

If that arrow is as close to the spine as it looks in the last picture, you took out the main artery that runs under the spine and not much else., maybe a piece of the nearside lung.

[Gatekeeper]

The crack was the breaking of the 8th rib from the front. The arrow took out the near side lung, clipped the back end of the far side lung and cut a little bit of the liver. No gut.

[Homebru]

I'm thinkin' nearside lung and liver....Jerry's also got a point with the last pic (main artery under spine; the aorta) but that may be an optical illusion.....but that being said, I find something else more interesting.....your story....based upon what you perceived happened, you said the arrow entered "tight behind the shoulder" yet it appears that penetration may have been a few inches back....despite our best efforts shooting and our best efforts trying to remember what we saw....what we think we saw and what is reality are not always the same......thus, the common suggestion that a true broadside shot is the best...not quartering toward.

Glad to see you got the deer.
homebru

[Steve O]

Liver and guts here.  I am interested to hear the recovery part of the lesson  

[pdk25]

C'mon man.  The suspense is killing me.

[30coupe]

I'm having a hard time figuring out how some of you are making that arrow hit the gut. It went into and out of the ribcage. The gut is behind the ribcage...behind the diaphram. The arrow entered and exited ahead of the diaphram.

I made almost an identical shot this year, though somewhat lower. I took out that third rib on exit, so it might have been an inch forward on exit. I can tell you for absolute certain the paunch is well back of that.

[longbowben]

One lung and liver.

[John Scifres]

Back of one lung and liver.  Get those tenderloins out of there now!     Thanks for sharing.  The pics and story.  Not the tenderloins.

[pdk25]

Originally posted by 30coupe:
I'm having a hard time figuring out how some of you are making that arrow hit the gut. It went into and out of the ribcage. The gut is behind the ribcage...behind the diaphram. The arrow entered and exited ahead of the diaphram.

I made almost an identical shot this year, though somewhat lower. I took out that third rib on exit, so it might have been an inch forward on exit. I can tell you for absolute certain the paunch is well back of that.

The diaphragm is a fixed structure only around the periphery in relation to the ribs.  It's position varies with respiration.  Also, the ribs do not stay on the same plane, they are curved.  When a physician is doing a physical exam on a patient trying to assess the size of the liver or to see if the patient has inflammation of the gallbladder, they frequently try to pry their fingers under the ribs on the right, because the majority of the liver is superior(above) to the ribs anteriorly(to the front).

       


That dark bubble on the right, under the lungs, is gas trapped in the stomach.  You can see the outline of the ribs extending quite a bit below that.  If I was as bit more computer savvy, I could draw lines, but basically the liver extends from just below the lung on the left to just slightly below the the lowest extent of the ribs on the left.  (right and left are as you are looking at the picture, not anatomically)
This picture was taken with a full inspiration.  

PS  If you see a deer with this profile, don't shoot. It might taste a little funny.  

[Oscar-eleven]

liver& guts

[Steve O]

I don't know what PDK25 said, but that is EXACTLY what I was thinking   :eek:

[30coupe]

pdk,

I agree with you. The liver is a possibility. I did clip it with my shot...forgot to put that in my post, but I don't think he hit the paunch. The liver would be in between the paunch and the lungs/diaphram. The doe I shot made it about 40-50 yards and piled up. There was no damage to the paunch/guts what-so-ever. She's mighty tasty too!

[BEN]

Answer!.........Answer!...........Answer!      

[Recurve50 LBS]

Looks like he hit the freezer and dinner table.      

[30coupe]

Now if you had an xray of a deer, that would be helpful!  :D  

So if the deer had gas and was standing on its hind legs...

I'd still bet the paunch was intact.

Okay, let's have the answer.

[pdk25]

Dang things won't stand still for that.  And if you ask em to take a deep breath they just snort and stomp.

[30coupe]

I bet the "turn your head and cough" thing gets quite a reaction too!    

This shot went in and came out in nearly the same spots. I was at 18 yards from a tree stand, so the angle was down a bit more. She was across a draw though, so not as low as some tree stand shots. The batteries crapped out on my camera that day, so all I got was a couple cell phone shots. I do know I took out both lungs and clipped the front of the liver. She was quartering to me, but looked back over her shoulder at another doe so the shot was good. Blowing up the rib on the far side kept the arrow from passing through. It stopped with about 8" of shaft and fletching sticking out. The exit hole made by the WW was massive. I wish I had thought to take a picture of it. Ray Charles could have followed the blood trail.

 


That's why I am pretty confident he didn't hit the paunch or the gut.