Killy, that is what ya need, this multi-flora rose will put a hurtin' on ya!! My shoulder was doing good for a few days and the last day or two, ouch. I am gonna have to get a couple of cotisone shots about 3 days before the hunt. I should be good to go!! I picked up a new pair of brush pants and a new orange vest at DICKS, really heavy duty the cost for both $18 total, i love when the put their stuff on close-out!! I just made up some 65-70# woodies with 8" orange crown and 1 orange feather and two powder blue 5" LW Shields. Great color combo, believe it or not!! OOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Shawn