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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #360 on: June 14, 2006, 11:37:00 PM »
Here is a list of the ATA board members for all those who have asked.

Scott Alread
Bear Archery

Marvin Carlston
Gold Tip Inc.

Peter Crawford
G5 Outdoors

Michele Eichler,
Muzzy Products Corp

Larry Griffith,
Bohning Company

Pete Shepley
Precision Shooting Equipment

Malcom Snyder
Pape's Inc.

Ben Summers,
T.R.U. Ball Release Products

Todd R Vaaler,
Gateway Feathers

Paul Vaicunas,
Horton Manufacturing Inc.

Laverne Woock,
Delta Industries
   

Sales Representative

Bruce Hudalla
Hudalla Associates, Inc.
   Retail

Peter Gussie
Midwest Cimmarron Archery

John Larsen
Bwana Archery

Randy Phillips
Archery Headquarters Inc.
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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #361 on: June 15, 2006, 05:50:00 AM »
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Can we get a Stop WorldHunt Now Link on the Tradgang main page to assist other coming from other sites to participate as well. Right now you must enter Pow Wow to see it.
Good idea .... DONE!

516 STOP WORLDHUNT NOW! emails sent as of now ...

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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #362 on: June 15, 2006, 08:30:00 AM »
Scott Alread is the president of the ATA right now, he works for Bear who has a pretty decent stake in the trad community. The ATA has been real tight lipped on sharing their thoughts on the WHA and the rumor is they support it as a way to increase archery sales which haven't grown much in the last ten years. We need them to realize against the WHA will be much better for business. Here is Bears contact info.

Fred Bear Outdoors
Escalade Sports
817 Maxwell Avenue
Evansville, IN 47711

Phone: 866-556-2754 (Toll Free)
Fax: 812-425-1425
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« Reply #363 on: June 15, 2006, 09:07:00 AM »
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 the rumor is they support it as a way to increase archery sales which haven't grown much in the last ten years.  
Well, selling the sizzle and not the steak never works for very long.
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« Reply #364 on: June 15, 2006, 09:43:00 AM »
And this grill could burn us real bad
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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #365 on: June 15, 2006, 09:52:00 AM »
I sent the following on behalf of the Alberta Traditional Bowhunters Association.  I would like to thank all of you for doing this work addressing this assault on what we do every spring and fall what we stand for....you have all done a great job.

Mr. Farbman…wake up!

 What on earth are you trying to accomplish other than to line your pockets with some “Bassmaster” type cash at the expense of all of the hard work of your former sportsman colleagues?  You are making a mockery out of what stirs in a hunter’s heart every autumn.  You are putting a dollar figure on something that has never been for sale.  And now, armed with the ammunition you have placed on a platter, you have enabled the antis to serve up more corroboration of their view on what a hunter is to the masses.  High fences and walking advertisements in pursuit of the elusive, but captive, whitetail deer is not hunting…you know that.  Stop your madness….your don’t want to forever be referred to as the “Outdoorsman’s Benedict Arnold”….or do you?

 

The men and women of the Alberta Traditional Bowhunters Association won’t be watching and….your sponsors will know that we won’t be supporting them or purchasing any of their products.

 

Gary McCartney

President- Alberta Traditional Bowhunters Association

 

 

 


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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #366 on: June 15, 2006, 09:53:00 AM »
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« Reply #367 on: June 15, 2006, 10:02:00 AM »
Good letter Gary. But I need to tell all you guys, David Farberman isn't a good place to direct your efforts. The potential sponsors are. Don't for a minute thisnk that there aren't more that they aren't releasing the names of. These folks aren't stupid, they saw what happened to the ones that they did release the names of as they saw what happened to the one "hunters" name that became public. We need to fight a preventive war right now. Anyone even remotely hunting related needs to get letters and calls letting them know how we the current customers feel.
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« Reply #368 on: June 15, 2006, 10:28:00 AM »
I agree.  I have sent a message to all my members asking them to review this thread, visit the website,identify sponsors and stakeholders and then join us in the campaign you describe.  
Thanks again for you work...
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« Reply #369 on: June 15, 2006, 10:40:00 AM »
Guys we are giving some guidance to Bass Pro Shops on their position statement right now. Hope to have the official one soon. Keep up the good work.

Gary thanks for the support from our family to the north! This guy wants to make it a world league well he needs a worlds worth of trouble then.
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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #370 on: June 15, 2006, 10:55:00 AM »
I saw a poll on "we love outdoors"  that has made every effort to be fair (limiting votes to one per IP address, I believe)
Looks like a more realistic poll:  about 80% against...

 http://www.weloveoutdoors.com/default.asp?page=main
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« Reply #371 on: June 15, 2006, 11:01:00 AM »
Yes a friend of mine is running that poll and he has set up everything he can to make it a clean poll. I encourage everyone to vote in that poll. It's results will be broken down by state then written into reports for each states DNR, legislative commissions and others who need this information.
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« Reply #372 on: June 15, 2006, 11:06:00 AM »
I think you are right JasonV.  I tried to cheat it as an experiment and couldn't do it.  I'm no computer whizbang though.  I'm sure it can be done.
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« Reply #373 on: June 15, 2006, 11:08:00 AM »
Internet polls are far from scientific.  I'd hesitate to share them as anything other than a curiosity.  A decent scientific poll could be written for this fairly easily.  Anybody working on their Masters in wildlife biology?
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« Reply #374 on: June 15, 2006, 11:24:00 AM »
I have spoken with Denise Parker and she is going to have Jay McAninch from the ATA call me for an official statement that I can broadcast on my radio show. I will let TradGang know when it will air (& audio stream on-line) and will also send mp3 for the site.

Regarding WHA, I can't imagine ANY HUNTING ORGANIZATIONS backing them up!

I'll quote Nugent on this one..."(WHA is) antiHunting, antiNature, antiBalance, antiScience, antiCreation, antiBiodiversity, antiTed!! KILL THE BEAST!! blatant antis in disguise!"

Keep Up The Good Fight! See you at Compton this weekend!

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« Reply #375 on: June 15, 2006, 11:27:00 AM »
Thanks Mike! Any chance you can e-mail me a transcript? I have people who could really use that
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« Reply #376 on: June 15, 2006, 11:39:00 AM »
I'm on it!

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« Reply #377 on: June 15, 2006, 11:46:00 AM »
Here is the response I got from Bass Pro.

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Subject :    WHA

Mike –

Please be assured that we have no intention of supporting this organization in any way.

I have already contacted our vendors and told them our feelings on the WHA and urged them not to support them either.

I am also writing a letter to be posted on our web site, other web sites, and sent to WHA stating our feelings and condemnation of this organization.

 

Larry Whiteley

Manager

Corporate Public Relations and Outdoor Education

Office (417) 873-5022

Cell (417) 689-1118

[email protected]

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Way to go Bass Pro!!!    :thumbsup:

Please don't forget to send letters of support to those organizations and vendors who are working with us on this.    We need to let them know how many of us support their stance against the WHA.
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« Reply #378 on: June 15, 2006, 12:04:00 PM »
We are working on it with them right now Mike. I have forwarded a=the pertinent laws to them, the director of the MVMA contact info, the SCI statement and about 3 pages more of information. It appears that they and cabelas will release their statements in a similar time frame to show solidarity and i also believe we owe some thanks to their actions on the sudden change of heart that the ATA appears to be having now. Larry is a good guy, he just has to have all of his ducks in row.
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« Reply #379 on: June 15, 2006, 12:06:00 PM »
Also Mike Tomano you have a PM from me and if you want anything from me for your talks with the ATA, just say the word!
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