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« Reply #380 on: June 15, 2006, 12:17:00 PM »
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« Reply #381 on: June 15, 2006, 12:23:00 PM »
Part of where his money will come on this is from the fenced ranches. This gives those places a chance to showcase their animals and sell them for an even higher trophy fee of which the WHA can get a cut. Think about this for some yuppie hunter.

You can harvest the buck that won the WHA Invitational at XXX ranch! Just think of the chest puffers lining up for that. How much do you think auctions for these deer could bring from misguided fanboys.
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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #382 on: June 15, 2006, 12:49:00 PM »
Despite all the emails and phone calls and really, just getting the word out about this disgusting idea, it has only been a few days since this whole thing came out. We can never let up on this guy until his whole scheme disappears completely! I feel that as true hunters we are the authority and the leading voice for the animals.It is our duty to educate and be the role models for hunting today. I like to think of how Saxton Pope would have fought this fight. I think he would have done so with passion and dignity. Let us all continue to act this way. God Bless, T
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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #383 on: June 15, 2006, 01:26:00 PM »
I spoke with Cabela's Wednesday morning on this subject- David asked me to wait until he sent me the official response out before speaking of it publicly but here is what I just received from them...it works for me!!!!


Hey guys,
 
Sorry for the delay in getting this to you and thanks again for calling in with your concerns.
 

Cabela’s was approached for sponsorship of the W.H.A. and we declined to be involved. Furthermore, consistent with the conservation groups and industry associations Cabela’s is affiliated with, we do not support the W.H.A. We are also working with our partners and suppliers to influence their stance as to this issue.

 

We are closely monitoring the situation and will continue to do so. Cabela’s always works to uphold the values of our customers, for they are our values as well. We appreciate your patronage.

 
David Draper
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Cabela's Inc.
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« Reply #384 on: June 15, 2006, 01:36:00 PM »
Bass Pro Shops will have their statement opposing the WHA up real soon. They have also started working on their suplliers.
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Re: Worst Idea Ever...HUNTING ALERT!!! READ & EMAIL!
« Reply #385 on: June 15, 2006, 01:52:00 PM »
Anyone privy to who this guys "Investment Group" is?  Looks like most of his corporate sponsors are hanging him to dry but do we know how deep the pockets are of the investment group and who they may be?

Would assume they are from the outdoors world arena.  And his financial backing from his real estate venture.

Great job TG on the poll and to everyone here for fighting the good fight against this heretic.
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« Reply #386 on: June 15, 2006, 02:24:00 PM »
Jake

based on your thoughts it's not hard to imagine seperate "worship" webpages for the largest bucks along with marketing photos, t-shirts, 6" silver belt buckles or that special "mucho mongo" polaris AWD. Then you throw in the color commentators with their headsets on whispering their scripted lines as the brave hunters stalk the mighty hero buck (they couldn't yell like the Nascar guys do). It's outdoor prostitutionalized commercialism at its worst.
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« Reply #388 on: June 15, 2006, 02:34:00 PM »
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Originally posted by non-typical:
 prostitutionalized commercialism at its worst.
I like it - pretty much says it all  :thumbsup:
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« Reply #389 on: June 15, 2006, 03:07:00 PM »
Is it at all possible that the WHA is a covert campaign that was started by the anti-hunting organizations? It is such a blatently attroucious idea that it will never get off its feet, but in the meantime, our image as ethical hunters is tarnished. All the average non-hunter will hear about it is, "The hunters shoot the animals for fun and then let them go after the drugs wear off." That will definitely create a negative stereotype of us.
We are the ones fightng the fire, but also the ones that will be ultimately blamed. I think we've been framed! It is odd that I have not heard a peep out of PeTA or HSUS about this. They should be screaming, but they're not. They are purposly waiting until it gets out of control, then they will step in and declare themselves, "Heroes".

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« Reply #390 on: June 15, 2006, 03:10:00 PM »
PETA has made a statement against this. I believe the reason we don't see more involvement is simple. We are fighting this for them, they don't have to spend any money and no matter what happens, they win.
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« Reply #391 on: June 15, 2006, 03:16:00 PM »
I'm sure that someone before me has thought of this and I just missed it but it bears repeating: PLEASE let's not forget the other half of this process----when someone (i.e.: Bass Pro, Cabela's, etc.) goes public with their statement of non-support we need to be sure we thank them for responding to our requests and for adding their support to our cause. Please e-mail these folks just as diligently with our thanks as with our concerns---we need to be sure they know we appreciate them and that we were and are sincere

thanks and apologies if I'm repeating
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« Reply #392 on: June 15, 2006, 03:20:00 PM »
Folks I just got off the phone with Bruce Cull President of the NFAA, the largest archery organization in the world. He was unaware of this WHA and has promised us their support in this and thanked us for bringing it to their attention.

The lesson guys is that ther are still a lot of people out there with no idea this is going on. We are no where near done with this fight!

Big thank-you to Two Arrows(Doug Orton) for this lead.
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« Reply #393 on: June 15, 2006, 03:23:00 PM »
holadude,

I know this is going to sound silly, but NO, I don't believe the anti's came up with this at all.

A hunter came up with the POD, a hunter came up with a GPS-rigged arrow so you could locate game, man hunters have come up with enough crap to make themselves look bad over the last 50 years to fill a big warehouse.

We are our own worst enemy. This Farbman guy likely believes that what he is doing is so cool, so important to the future of hunting...there are delusional people in every walk of life...there are people who don't think past their noses in every walk of life, there are people who do think past their noses but their brains are warped....

we can't blame this on anyone but ourselves and the crazy people who are running the asylums.  :scared:    :banghead:    "[dntthnk]"
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« Reply #394 on: June 15, 2006, 03:30:00 PM »
There is another thing I have seen on the Oudoor Channel that I do like.  It involves using remote cameras over bait and you take snapshots of deer over the internet for monthly prizes.  Now that's a non-lethal hunt I'd support.

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« Reply #396 on: June 15, 2006, 04:03:00 PM »
Did anyone even notice what I posted above about the NFAA? That is huge news, lets not get distracted by all the other detrious that is out there guys, we need to focus if we're going to put this WHA down.
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« Reply #397 on: June 15, 2006, 04:18:00 PM »
Dave
That's great news about the NFAA!!

Has anyone heard anything from the Sportsman's Alliance? I emailed all the top executives and haven't heard a thing.

 http://www.ussportsmen.org/interactive/features/Read1.cfm?ID=42
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« Reply #398 on: June 15, 2006, 04:20:00 PM »
Does anyone know the amount of money spent Michigan anually by hunters? Ben Tiller needs the info for the MI DAs office!
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« Reply #399 on: June 15, 2006, 04:40:00 PM »
1996 data:


       http://www.census.gov/prod/3/98pubs/mifhw698.pdf      

Looks like $1.8 billion by Michigan residents spent on hunting specifically.

5 billion by residents and nonreidents combined on "wildlife-associated activities"

The combined hunting numbers (resident + nonresident) is in there somewhere but I didn't get a chance to find it...
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