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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2006, 07:13:00 AM »
What ever gives them the idea that theres money to made in horns?

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2006, 09:56:00 AM »
Jason----one word: commerce
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2006, 01:32:00 PM »
guys, this just in from Cabela's..I called them Wednesday morning and got word of this but David asked me to wait for their official response prior to sending out any details...someone else may have already posted this but I didn't see it.

"Hey guys,
 
Sorry for the delay in getting this to you and thanks again for calling in with your concerns.
 

Cabela’s was approached for sponsorship of the W.H.A. and we declined to be involved. Furthermore, consistent with the conservation groups and industry associations Cabela’s is affiliated with, we do not support the W.H.A. We are also working with our partners and suppliers to influence their stance as to this issue.

 

We are closely monitoring the situation and will continue to do so. Cabela’s always works to uphold the values of our customers, for they are our values as well. We appreciate your patronage.

 
David Draper
Outdoor Communications
Cabela's Inc."
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2006, 01:38:00 PM »
Jason,
I hear you. Us on the NABC received two emails from him about our anti crossbow campaign and man, you could have fertilized a 50 acre field with the manure he piled into those two small diatribes.

It was all about how great the ATA was and how concerned they were for the future of bowhunting and how, they didn't have anything to do with the push to legalize crossbows around the country and were acting ONLY in an advisory capacity and AWN, and AWN, and AWN...good grief, if I didn't know better reading them I would have thought they were from Nancy Polosi or Ted Kennedy they were so full of 1. condescension and 2.Horse puckey and 3. more horse puckey
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2006, 07:56:00 PM »
All I can say is the ATA's mouthpiece should take a strong stand against Farbman's vision (and soon) or he will lose even more respect than he's ALREADY lost on his crossgun love affair.

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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2006, 08:35:00 PM »
As given to me by Mike. ATA stand so far.

I just got off the phone with Jay McAninch from ATA and, while their "official" statement has yet to be released, they are concerned and working to make contact with all involved. They haven't been able to meet with this Farber guy yet. They've made contact, but that's it
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2006, 09:17:00 PM »
I have no use for the ATA or its snake oil.  They have pi$$-- on bowhunting and its heritage for far too long and only now are many seeing their true light.  Sure made everyone forget about crossguns for a few days though, didn't it?

BTW, none of those names listed appear to be BIG GUNS to me!

Dan
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2006, 10:17:00 PM »
ATA is only interested in Making $$$ Businessmen aren't hunters, they sell things to hunters. The best interests of these groups (hunters and suppliers) aren't the same.

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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2006, 09:32:00 PM »
Okay Guys,

Let's continue to build a data base of individuals we can contact!!
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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2006, 11:11:00 AM »
As written on the ATA site, what a farce.

Bowhunting Preservation Alliance
The Bowhunting Preservation Alliance is a foundation created in 2002 to increase funding potential and focus the industry’s clout in promoting and growing the sport of bowhunting. This nonprofit foundation receives its core funding and direction from the Archery Trade Association, formerly known as the Archery Manufacturers and Merchants Organization.

Under the ATA’s charter, the BPA is a charitable, tax-free organization devoted to education and research to grow and protect bowhunting. The BPA is networked to other organizations in the hunting, conservation and recreational communities. It receives its funding from proceeds generated by the annual Archery Trade Show, as well as donations from companies inside and outside the archery and bowhunting world.
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2006, 07:23:00 PM »
TTT

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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2006, 09:44:00 AM »
Bowtech, Bear, Hoyt, Martin, and PSE need to be reminded what hunting is about. I have heard nothing from any of them on the WHA, has anyone else yet?
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2006, 09:58:00 AM »
I have not had any responses from any of the bow manufacturers.
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2006, 10:03:00 AM »
cowards!!!!!!!!!!!there all about the money!
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2006, 10:11:00 AM »
Matthews, Merlin and Newberry have all made statements. So not all bow manufacturers are silent
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2006, 10:12:00 AM »
BLB,
 They need to be reminded that even if they are only about the money, that association with this nonhunting abomination may cost them BIG - rather than boosting sales, they may very well find a boycott of ther products by real hunters....

Our letters and e-mails will hopefully remind them of that.
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #36 on: June 21, 2006, 03:10:00 PM »
The NABC is issuing a position statement in strong opposition to WHA.

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« Reply #37 on: June 21, 2006, 03:17:00 PM »
That has already been done. I worked with them last weekend on it. It has been posted in the other WHA thread.

We need more than statements at this point though. These folks really don't care what hunters thinks or want, they are after a different market.
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Offline Ray Hammond

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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2006, 03:18:00 PM »
I am pretty sure thats shown over on the "big" thread on this, Indianbowman...thanks!
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Re: THE BIG GUNS THAT NEED TO SPEAK UP AGAINST THE WHA
« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2006, 02:48:00 PM »
Guys keep up the good work. I think that there is a lot at stake here and everyone needs to get involved.
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