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Offline Eric Krewson

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This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« on: January 25, 2009, 01:24:00 PM »
I sure don't like this new guy's stance on hunting, pretty spooky.

Here is one of his quotes;

"We ought to ban hunting, I suggest, if there isn’t a purpose other than sport and fun. That should be against the law. It’s time now.”


  http://www.opposingviews.com:80/articles/opinion-cass-sunstein-has-secret-animal-rights-agenda

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2009, 10:09:00 PM »
In Oklahoma we voted in an amendment to our state's Constitution that make's hunting a right.
They can't overturn that can they??
I don't understand where these people come from.
The audacity to think that they are above nature and not a part of it.
Hunting no purpose but sport this guy needs a reality check.
Hunting for me is a way of life not a sport, I'm an omnivore I need meat, greens and fruits.
Sorry for the rant I'm just sick and tired of someone thinking that they know what is best for me.
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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2009, 09:27:00 AM »
Get ready for more of the same from this bunch. They have no concept of individual rights, other than their own. Since they don't hunt or own guns, or know anybody that does, then we shouldn't own guns or hunt, either.
Take a look at HR 45, which has just been offered in our current congress; it requires firearms licensing and registration, a test to see if you are qualified to own a firearm, and felony penalties for those who don't comply. Rep Rush, strangely enough from Obama's home state of Illinois, is the sponsor. Probably just a coincidence   :mad:
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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2009, 07:21:00 PM »
Wow! That guy is sure a nut case. I wonder though if his anti-hunting/extreme animal rights ideas will see the light of day. Any chance he was put in that position because he's an expert in some important matters where his personal "agenda" won't surface? I sure don't feel the last admin did me any favors over the last 8 years, so I'll wait to see what happens "before" I decide what this admin has to offer. I haven't heard about any plans to open drilling in areas that may affect habitat or migration routes yet, and that seemed a popular theme for that last group in charge.
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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2009, 09:29:00 AM »
This woman will be trouble too.

"Lisa P. Jackson to head the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is a further sign of erosion of backing sportsmen.

While Jackson has said she’ll let science overrule politics, as head of the New Jersey Environmental Protection Agency she banned the hunting of black bears in that state.

This, in spite of that state’s biologists saying such hunting was necessary for control purposes and would hardly harm the bear population there."
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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2009, 09:32:00 AM »
These two don't inspire much confidence either.

Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Attorney General Eric Holder. Check out their histories.

People will need to keep close watch on the legislation introduced. There are a few pieces in there now but are firearm related so will be left out of this discussion.
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Offline sweeney3

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2009, 11:30:00 AM »
As much as it makes my head hurt just to keep informed on what is going on, I know that it's vital that we contact our elected officials and express our views.  If we don't, we will be hunting foam targets and nothing else.  I lose sleep over the mess that our country is getting itself into.
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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 10:33:00 AM »
I heard on the news guns and Amo tax raise out of this world.
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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2009, 11:49:00 PM »
stay informed and stay in touch with you politicians. One letter from you equates to 100 views unheard and the good one go by that rule.

It's time to stop complaining and take action, run for office go to town meeting, this is gonna have to be grassroots.
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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2009, 04:27:00 PM »
Game Over, I dunno think so!  Sure the vote happens on a regualar bais but the game of politics will be happening long after were gone.  Presently it would seem as if the new game has just started and a pitched battle is to be seen for sure!

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2009, 06:53:00 PM »
No No the game it not over till we the people say it is..Never give up...

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2009, 07:03:00 PM »
Tdog game's not over until you are in your grave. What you do up until then is your choice. Regardless of what the idiots in power decree.

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 05:26:00 PM »
The people were duped, so detested Bush for a variety of reasons and especially since the major media was against him from the start. That they would have voted for a socialist with ties to terrorists just to be rid of him.
Just like now, since the election there has been numerous protests against him where he speaks, have a single one of you seen anything about it in the news. NO.
Have you seen any info on the numerous state legislators that have introduced bills limiting the federal governments power in their states and advising the Feds that if they continue on their current anti-constitutional path they will leave the Union. NO.
Get your news and info from other sources and be ready for anything, cause it is coming and Chairman Obama is leading the charge

Offline S Bays

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2009, 10:12:00 AM »
I think we better stick with our firearm toting brethern. I suspect that I am not the only gunowner on here,If we lose one of our freedoms from the bill of rights the rest will fall like dominos. WE are definatly on the defensive. I paraphrase Ben Franklin when I say we better hang together or we will all hang seperatly!

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2009, 12:40:00 PM »
MJH and TDog are right.  The game isn't over until we say it is, which we can do actively or passively by not saying anything.  I suggest we go with actively and make our opinions heard.  And, on the good news side, first the Supreme Court came out right in the DC gun law case and second politicians are much more air than substance anyway.
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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2009, 03:17:00 PM »
Too early to get your undies in a bundle folks.  The Jackson appointment is of concern because she is in a position that actually could impact hunting.  However, Obama didn't get where he is by misreading public opinion.  And, he's going to have much bigger fish to fry for the next few years.  How about we give him a chance before fretting about what we think might happen.  Bush may not have tried to take our guns, but he was fast selling, polluting, giving to his buddies, and otherwise destroying any place we might use them.

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2009, 03:35:00 PM »
Better preemptive than reactive. He is big time big city from the center of the anti gun/hunting world Orion, his public opinion polls aren't going to be the same as ours.
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« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2009, 05:07:00 PM »
Dave:  I agree the new info and regulation czar isn't one of us, but sometimes the office has an effect on the person, i.e., the magnitude of the responsibility sometimes causes the person to do the right thing rather than act in his/her own self interest.  Bears watching, of course, to help him along the path.

I think one of the things the Dems learned in the second Bush election is to not piss off the gun owners/hunters.  I believe they voted overwhelmingly in favor of Bush, 80% or more if memory serves, and that was enough to win a few crucial states.  

The zealots will renew their efforts to pass anti-gun and anti-hunting legislation, given that they perceive an administration that they think looks favorably on their agenda.  I think they're wrong, too.  Though there might be some minor inroads on guns on the national level, hunting is safe there IMO.  Don't know if that can be said for the states though, which is where the antis have had the most success.

Offline Ron Roehrick

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Re: This guy could be a problem for us hunters
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2009, 08:58:00 AM »
If you dont belong to the NRA you shoulg join, they are on the front lines doing most of the work. I dont agree with everything they do but they are at the forefront battling in congress,the Obama administration is the enemy of sportsman for sure.

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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2009, 01:55:00 PM »
It is anti-gun and hunting across the board. It is an ideology that says it does not vote along ideological lines! (Yes- read that again!) As far as a leader from Harvard, they actually have a specialty law degree developed at Harvard on "Animal Rights."  At just under 50 yrs of age, I suspect in my life time we will be facing law suits for killing animals- it is already occurring. Hillary is our Sec. of State and she is clearly anti-gun. . ., our stimulus gave Pelosi millions to care for the marsh mouse!

Bush made lots of mistakes but he was sure a leader who stood to the plate and made decisions. He also was pro-republic, pro-state, pro-individual rights, pro-life, and pro-capitalism. Our families were safe for 8 years while places like Britain were getting blasted.  He honored state's rights to decide on use of their land (which some believe was against the land and our environment- but it was NOT.  It was pro-state rights, where Feds should stay out of our business.)

A person's comprehensive world view affects every thing. These are not separate issues.  We are suppose to be a Representative Republic based on law; that whcih is good and rational.  We are not a Democracy which dissolves into socialism or an Oligarchy. This Admin. is clearly a socialist/Oligarchy agenda.
 
Better get prepared for FAR more than 4 years of loss.  Obama was the pick of the people- which tells us where the PEOPLE are at.  Pretty scarey.

We NEED to join NRA and Sportsman Alliance to name a few. You will never agree with everything-but they are all fighting in the right direction.  The country was built on individual and state sovereign rights.  Every thing being attacked fall under that canopy as a comprehensive system.  Individual rights go (which includes the sovereign rights of all human beings), state rights go, gun rights go, and hunting rights go. . .all are linked together- so if we lose ANY of these we will lose hunting rights. . . the hand writing is on the wall.
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