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Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« on: September 04, 2011, 06:44:00 PM »
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VALLEY FALLS, N.Y. (AP) — Wildlife officials in New York may ban captive boar hunts as they try to curb a growing feral hog population before it gets as bad as it is in Southern states, where roaming droves have devastated crops and wildlife habitat with their rooting, wallowing and voracious foraging.

Feral swine are breeding in three counties in central New York, according to a federal study done last year with funding from New York's Invasive Species Council. The wild population statewide is likely in the hundreds , said Gordon Batcheller, head of the state Department of Environmental Conservation's Bureau of Wildlife.

That's small compared with Texas, where biologists estimate the feral hog population at around 2 million, but Batcheller said any number is bad because they're certain to multiply. Damage becomes more noticeable when the population reaches the thousands and the hogs stake out home territories rather than wandering widely.

Eurasian wild boars have become popular on private hunting ranches throughout the U.S. in recent years as an addition to deer and elk. Ranch owners deny they're the source of the free-roaming pigs, but Patrick Rusz, director of wildlife programs for the Michigan Wildlife Conservancy, said the animals started showing up in the wild soon after hunting preserves began importing them. Their distribution is clustered near preserves, he added.

"We're not talking about Porky Pig getting loose from the farm," Rusz said. "These are Russian wild

"We're not talking about Porky Pig getting loose from the farm," Rusz said. "These are Russian wild boars. Those animals are Houdini-like escape artists and they breed readily in the wild. We've had domestic pigs for centuries and never had a feral hog problem until the game ranches started bringing these in."

Wild pigs are intelligent and adaptable, eating almost anything and able to live in a wide range of habitats. They dig up cropland and lawns. They damage ecosystems by rooting and digging for food and devouring roots, stems, leaves, fruit, nuts, bark, bird eggs, mice, snakes and fawns. They compete with native wildlife for food such as acorns, carry diseases that can be transferred to wildlife, and destroy wetlands with their wallowing.

Feral swine multiply rapidly, with sows producing several litters a year of four to six piglets, so as with any invasive species, it's crucial to mount aggressive eradication efforts before the population is widely established, Batcheller said. They're also wily and secretive, and become even more so when people try to shoot or trap them.

New York trapped and removed 44 feral swine in Cortland and Onondaga counties in 2008 and 2009, but that effort ended when the state's budget got tight. Now authorities are working to build public awareness of the problem and encourage people to report sightings, as well as urging hunters with small-game licenses to shoot them, any time of year.

"Stopping escapes is the biggest and most important issue we're challenged with," Batcheller said. "It might require legislation so we can shut down the source of these animals before they get on the landscape."

A number of states have banned the captive wild boar hunts as a first step in controlling the wild population, including Michigan, with a population of boars estimated at 2,000 to 7,000. But ranch operators have lobbied the Michigan legislature to overturn the state's ban. While politicians argue, Rusz says the ban has been postponed and won't be fully in place for perhaps four years.

Another problem comes when preserve operators don't take adequate precautions to keep hogs from escaping, said Dave Vanderzee, owner of Easton View Outfitters, a game-hunting and breeding ranch about 20 miles northwest of Albany in Valley Falls. He keeps his Eurasian wild boars behind an 8-foot-tall wire mesh fence encircling about a quarter-acre, with the bottom of the fence buried to prevent burrowing out.

"As an operator, you don't want to lose your livestock," Vanderzee said. They're too valuable."

While deer are hunted from September through January, when they have nice racks of antlers, boar provide an exciting hunt and tasty meat year round, making them popular with hunters and valuable to preserve operators, he said.

"With the cold winters and deep snowpack in the Northeast, I don't think New York is going to have quite the problem people think it will have with feral hogs," Vanderzee said. "But let's not find out. We should nip it in the bud."

Rusz said no fence is foolproof, and the only sensible solution is to ban captive boar breeding and hunting, just as it's illegal to propagate other exotic invasive species.

In Michigan, the Wildlife Conservancy is training volunteers to operate wild hog traps and working with landowners to ferret out and eliminate pockets of wild hogs.

"Biologists will tell you, once they get established, they're going to come to a neighborhood near you," Rusz said. "The hogs will find you. That's the situation we're in."
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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2011, 07:24:00 PM »
Good article. We keep hearing more and more about boars up here. In order to earn money while I was in college, I hauled waste milk and waste ice cream at night for one of the "hunting preserves" that had well over a hundred Russian boars. Maybe 150. Maybe 200. They fed on the waste milk and loved it. I know that some got loose. At the time I didn't think any fence would keep them in if they wanted to roam. Hmm, maybe I was right.
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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2011, 08:09:00 PM »
They keep getting reported up the road from my hunting land but Ive yet to see sign. I saw a big old domestic boar that escaped from a farm up there but I didn't kill him. When I told the owner he told me to go back and kill him but I never saw him. He got shot in rifle season but was too big and old to eat. I really don't think that they will proliferate. Too many hunters and not enough cover or grub in winter.

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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 01:51:00 PM »
.... Sorry to differ with you Izzy but the harsh winters and deep snow of CNY haven't detered the population here , these are Russian Boars we are talking about and more and more are being sighted and harvested every year .
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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 02:06:00 PM »
I know land owners sure hate them or anyone that is into agriculture for a living but I love hunting hogs especially seeing how most states consider them a nuisance and a varmint with no season or bag limits plus they are delicious.

Embrace your hog curse and go hunting!
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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 05:07:00 PM »
I don't think the climate is going to allow them to breed as much as the southern states and therfore will be easier to control.
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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 05:48:00 PM »
I know that they were in a fenced in area, but those russian hogs on that hunting preserve bred like, well, like russian hogs.  And they were out in CNY's weather.
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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 06:43:00 PM »
Russian boars live very well in Siberia...so New York will seam like Florida to them ....they are very adaptable...

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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 10:25:00 PM »
Are they over running Siberia? Or just getting by with a sustainable population. I think everyone is simply speculating at this point the degree of proplem they could become in NY.

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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2011, 03:29:00 PM »
Been a sustainable population in Siberia for hundreds of years....when they breed with a garden varity porky pig you get a toughter meaner animal..

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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2011, 09:11:00 AM »
The claims of wild pigs running rampant in Michigan are very much blown out of proportion.

Areas that hold pigs in Michigan are PRIVATE lands, where the average Joe cannot get access.

Old Man Winter will concentrate pigs to a food source, and if you want them gone, allow hunters to get to them during the winter. True, pigs WILL eat anything to survive, but the winters in our northern states FORCE the hogs to become visible...and Americans like pork.  :D

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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2011, 04:00:00 PM »
SteveB -- in the beginning at any hint of a probable escape of pigs , the DEC wanted it all hush hush at least the area that I am speaking of . They didn't want any hunters busting up any number of animals to spread them out in any way . So they thought that they themselves could eradicate them by trapping them - well that was several years ago and they couldn't do it . So at the beginning of our regular season this year the DEC had asked everyone to shoot as many as they could if there were any sightings . So that just tells me that they are established and will eventually grow into at substantial number .
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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 05:18:00 AM »
Has anybody spotted any boars this year during the southern zone hunting season(s)?  Or heard of any being shot?
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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2011, 04:16:00 PM »
Yes, I heard of one being shot opening weekend of gun season across the Hoosick River from that preserve being mentioned. Havent seen pics but it was rumored.

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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2011, 07:55:00 PM »
Big one was killed just a few days ago in car crash on boarder of Cortland and Onondaga counties- have pics of several on my property 1800' high and very cold, they seem to be doing just fine.

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Re: Wild Pigs / Boars in New York
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2011, 07:35:00 AM »
I once heard a biologist say 3 things will survive in the end Coyotes,Cock Roaches and Feral Hogs . Good luck with them .
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