Thanks guys...I made one about 3 weeks back with the other half of the spring but with Mesquite and the copper has turned out dark just like planned. OkKeith the butt cap was turned down with a lathe from a 11/4" copper bar...turned it down to a half inch an tapped it to 1/4 and it's inserted about a half inch and i used epoxy to glue it all up.It sure looks better in hand than what the picture shows, I guess my camera skills need to be a bit better...lol