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Offline kbaknife

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A few to view
« on: December 17, 2010, 12:18:00 PM »
Some of you are aware that I have been involved in a project of building 20 CKCA Club Knives that were offered for the first time this year to CKCA members. (Custom Knife Collectors Association)
Then again, maybe some of you did not know that.
In addition, it's been a short while since I've posted any of them, and while having a few moments here between Club Knife #18 and #19, I thought I might post a few up for something to look at.
They are mostly self-explanatory.
Of the 20, I think three were ordered in 52100, and the remainder were ordered in W2.
So - no hamon = 52100.
Not all of them are here, but enough to get bored with before you finish!
Enjoy.

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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Offline kbaknife

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 12:19:00 PM »
A few more:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
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Offline DANA HOLMAN

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 01:25:00 PM »
Amazing work on all of them
Dana
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Offline Ragnarok Forge

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 01:26:00 PM »
Gorgeous work.  I love the spalted wood handle in the first picture.
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Offline TheBigRedArcher

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 04:14:00 PM »
Have we been A little busy? WOW! They all look great!

TBRA
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Offline 4est trekker

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 05:39:00 PM »
:notworthy:  Beautiful! Thanks for sharing.
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Offline amar911

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 06:36:00 PM »
The knives look great. There are going to be 20 very happy knife owners. I like the look of the hamon on the W2 knives, but 52100 is a great knife steel and one of my favorites. Karl, since you use both these steels, what is your opinion of how they compare in your knives and why someone would rather have one steel over the other?

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Offline oldpaths

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 06:45:00 PM »
I tip my hat to you sir,those are beautiful and every one of them say's true craftsmanship.
Thanks for posting

Larry
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Offline Lin Rhea

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 06:57:00 PM »
Bombproof and still pretty. The perfect combination.  :)
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Offline kbaknife

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 07:28:00 PM »
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Originally posted by amar911:
 Karl, since you use both these steels, what is your opinion of how they compare in your knives and why someone would rather have one steel over the other?

Allan
A complete answer to that will take some more time in the field with both for me to come up with a definitive answer.
They both have about 1.0% C. Give or take.
The additional chromium carbides that you will get with the 52100 will make for a really, really tough blade that will sharpen rather easily and cut long.
The additional vanadium and tungsten carbides you will get with the W2 will make it rather abrasive resistant and should hold a hard, hard edge for quite a while.
I have plans of doing some extensive side by side real world testing of a few different steels, including a Damascus blend, early this coming year.
I will report my findings!
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When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
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Offline Kevin Evans

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2010, 08:18:00 PM »
Looks like you got that hamon thing,
 DOWN PAT!!!!
Good work
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Offline Bodork

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2010, 08:46:00 PM »
Golly, those are amazing!! I'd love to see and hold one in real life!
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Offline amar911

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 05:01:00 PM »
Karl,

Thank you for that preliminary answer. I am looking forward to hearing more as you get the time to use knives you have made from both steels in field settings. The results will be very interesting. I know that there is as much to the design and the treatment as there is to the steel, which is why I am excited to see you producing the same knife in both steels. Like I said, I am a big fan of forged 52100, but those W2 knives look amazing with that cool hamon line.

Is there much differential hardening that you create when producing the hamon, or is it more for the decorative effect? I would be interested in knowing more about the heat treating process and the concepts as to why you choose to treat a particular steel and blade design a particular way. The beauty of the knives is always something to appreciate, but we all know that true beauty is more than skin deep, even in knives! There is no doubt that your knives are beautiful in every way.

Allan
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Offline kbaknife

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2010, 05:44:00 PM »
Allan, that hamon is a very distinct differential heat treating process.
Below is very hard, and in and above the bottom edge of the hamon will not be hard.
W2 is a VERY shallow and fast hardening steel, and just a little clay will produce some great hamons, which, by the way, was part of the thought process in making these Club Knives - they not only had to perform well, but had to be "special" as well.

The "heat treating process and the concepts" is directly proportional to the steel type and the task the knife is intended to perform.
The performance of the given steels that I intend to test is already well known, but it will be as much for a magazine article and promotion of Andersen Forge as anything else.
I will probably use my "special" 1984 5160, W2 and 1095/15N20 Damascus as my control knives for the test.
I'm going to a hog hunting camp for a week in Texas with a bunch of other Trad Gangers and want to use those three knives side by side until they give out, keeping notes and records along the way.
We'll see!
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When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Offline amar911

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2010, 12:57:00 AM »
That is very interesting to know, and I appreciate your efforts to explain those concepts to me. I bet there are a number of other people reading your comments that are just as glad to know these things as I am. There is so much about working with knife steels that I don't have any idea about. I think it is cool to have access to people here who have this kind of knowledge. Many thanks.

Allan
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Offline kbaknife

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2010, 07:50:00 AM »
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Originally posted by amar911:
......I think it is cool to have access to people here who have this kind of knowledge.

Allan
That's why we keep Lin around.     ;)
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When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Offline skullworks

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2010, 08:21:00 AM »
Awesome work as always Karl!
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Offline Steve Nuckels

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2010, 07:56:00 PM »
Karl, you make such a solid and beautiful knife!

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Offline toppredator

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2010, 11:57:00 AM »
Amazing knives.  I could never get bored looking at them.  I could litterally stare at them for hours.  If you'll excuse me I have to get back to staring and drooling.
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Offline S.C. Hunter

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Re: A few to view
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2010, 08:50:00 PM »
Those are great looking knives.  :thumbsup:
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