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Offline kbaknife

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San Mai White Iron Hunter
« on: May 14, 2012, 11:39:00 AM »
Something I just had to get done for a fellow, in spite of almost living in my shop right now preparing for the Blade Show.
This knife is one I've made quite a few of and was inspired by a mid-1800s knife I saw at an antique firearm collector's show in Novi, Michigan about 8 years ago.
This is a 4 1/2" San Mai blade of 1095 tool steel core and 416 stainless wrap.
The guard is a hot-blued mild steel affair matched up to a piece of my 100+ year old Bakelite.
Should make a comfortable "friend".

 
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 12:59:00 PM »
Sweet little knife Karl, can a guy buy any of that bakelite anywhere? Kind of looks like aged Osage.
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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 01:03:00 PM »
Might find some on ****.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 02:28:00 PM »
looking great!!

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 03:12:00 PM »
Sweet looking knife Karl.
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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 03:25:00 PM »
(I made one little verbal slip when mentioning the handle material in the very beginning by mis-naming it "Micarta". From then on I did refer to it correctly as "Bakelite".)

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When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 04:51:00 PM »
So Cool,

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 07:37:00 PM »
Very sweet!!!

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 09:50:00 PM »
Oh yea, nice! I think my wife still has a piece of that very bakelite somewhere...   ;)
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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 12:56:00 AM »
Looks great Karl. Your laminated blades are turning out great.

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 09:20:00 AM »
I like those blued guards.

Offline jonathan creason

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 09:44:00 AM »
That is amazing.

Offline Izzy

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 10:57:00 AM »
Dang Karl, thats one of my favorites of yours.

Offline kbaknife

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 02:35:00 PM »
Me, too.    ;)  

 
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Originally posted by mater:
I like those blued guards.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2012, 10:55:00 PM »
Karl

I really like your style! The contrast is very neat
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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2012, 07:12:00 AM »
Are you welding the complete san mai closed before welding?  Will the stainless stick to 1080 or is 1095 a beter choice?  I failed misserable with attempts at that pre-press but I am thinking of trying again now that I have it.  Any tips or description of what you are doing to get the stainless to weld to carbon steel?

Awesome knife by the way.  really like that one!

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2012, 07:38:00 AM »
Here's the deal - it MUST!! be an oxygen free weld, and there can be absolutely NO oxidation/coloring on the steel.
Even if you have a slight little bluing from heat - it won't weld in that spot.
What I'm saying is, a person might be able to weld up a "can" with the right welder, but I only have a stick welder, which means that you'd get the billet so hot and discolored, that you wouldn't get it welded. Make sense?
So, I just go around the perimeter with a 3/32 rod and make random little tiny weld 'dots' here and there to hold it together.
Then it goes in a double layer wrap of high temp stainless steel heat treat foil, into which has been placed some paper to eat up any oxygen while it's getting hot.
It soaks at welding heat - around 2200 - for 20 minutes.
Then into the press with big dies so it hits the entire billet in one press.
Hold 10 seconds.
Back in the forge to 2200 and soak 10 minutes.
Back into the press dies for a 10 second squeeze.
Then remove foil - which is a pain.
Grind edges until any un-welded areas are removed.
Draw out and then thermal cycle billet before making knife.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2012, 01:43:00 PM »
Karl -

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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2012, 11:23:00 PM »
Great work. Very clean and appealing.
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Re: San Mai White Iron Hunter
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2012, 08:06:00 PM »
That's a beautiful knife.
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