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Offline Steve Nuckels

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Edge hardness Question
« on: July 24, 2013, 12:37:00 PM »
I recently forged a SW Bowie from an Farriers rasp.  I did a spark test on the rasp before forging and was satisfied it was high carbon steel.

I hardened (quenched) the blade and was not satisfied with the outcome (filed the edge},and rehardened this morning.  When I filed the edge one side was hard, the other not as hard (file bit a little more}.  The edge is as thick as a penny.

Is it possable that different hardness on one side to the other?

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Offline Lin Rhea

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Re: Edge hardness Question
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2013, 02:18:00 PM »
Steve, first of all, I dont know if your rasp is an old one or a new one and even if I did, I dont know what steel it is, for sure. Some new files are case hardened low carbon. But let's assume it's high carbon.

This is just a suggestion of what might be happening. There may be some carbon loss on the edge and you might "read" it as being soft. If you file back a couple of good strokes, it might be hard. In this case you would have to allow some extra material to be removed to reach the hardened material. This will take place more when the piece has been in and out of the fire a lot during the forging procedure. Lots of heats.

When using an unknown steel, you are also having to accept some other "unknowns" that follow. Such as, Which is the proper quenchant, drawback temperatures, etc.?
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Offline Lin Rhea

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Re: Edge hardness Question
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 09:02:00 AM »
Steve, Have you any report on the results of this knife discussion? Just checking.   :campfire:
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Offline Steve Nuckels

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Re: Edge hardness Question
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 09:17:00 PM »
Lin, I have worked on the knife and it seems the second heat treat worked out!  I did some finish grinding and the edge seems hard.  After I put the final edge on I will do a performance test.

I will post a photo then.

Thanks for the follow up.

Steve
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