Jim,
This was Zach's first year hunting elk. He was on elk every time out during archery season and once during rifle season. He passed on a cow at 10 yards with his bow cause there was a huge bull behind her...yep she smelled him
During rifle season he only had a cow tag and only saw bulls!
He did skin out one elk and his knives skinned a total of four other elk. The good thing he has some knife orders rolling in now. He has the blade shape and more importantly the edge geometry down so pounding out a few knives in between bigger blacksmithing jobs helps with bread on the table.