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Offline buckshot95

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Need some help please!!
« on: November 10, 2008, 06:44:00 PM »
I am trying to build a bow with a riser block. i have try a couple of times and it keep coming off. i am using 5 min epoxy. i was wonder is somebody would sent me some good 2 part glue for bow building. i will pay for the shipping. Thanks ßÚçK§HØT!!
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Offline Dick in Seattle

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 06:53:00 PM »
have you tried heat curing it with a hair dryer?   Might help.   If you've had it on and off, you probably need to prep both surfaces down to clean wood again.  I've only done one riser that way, and so far, no trouble

Hmm.. another thought... what kind of five minute epoxy are you using... the two part kind where you squeeze and it comes out of two tubes?

Hopefully, guys with a lot more experience than mine will check in, but mine did work..
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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 07:17:00 PM »
Dylan, You should try titebond III... at any hardware store ..I could ship you some urac 185 but you'd be better off going to home depot.. 5 bucks.. bam.. your done..

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 07:23:00 PM »
i didn't heat cure it.i have took all of the glue off before regluing. i am using the tubed kind.

i might try the titebond III i have heard of it.thanks
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Offline Pluck Yew

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 07:38:00 PM »
Dylan, I am new to bow making (working on # 12)but you name the glue and I have it in my garage..was skeptical about comments about "any yellow wood glue will be fine"..but have used 2 part epoxy, gorilla, c2,(super glue)..smooth-on..urac 185..titebond II,..titebond III,..and for ease of use (for wood lam bows)Titebond III is what I use.. I have not had a glue failure with it yet.. and I don't know what I'm doing..so .. with the advice of many here when I glue wood to wood I use titebond III...

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 08:29:00 PM »
Tite-Bond II and III are good glues. I have used them both on many bows and many kinds of wood.
   Probably the reason your riser is popping off is because the handle area is bending, even if only slightly. Starting with a thick stave and reducing the limbs will put the riser above the plain of the limbs making that area stronger and non bending.
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Offline Apex Predator

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2008, 06:55:00 AM »
If your handles are popping off, it may not be the glues fault.  If the bow is trying to bend through the handle, no glue will hold it on.
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Offline Pluck Yew

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2008, 07:14:00 PM »
Yeah, what Pat and Apex said, If I knew how to tiller and had my bows bending closer to the handle I probably would have lost handles to!!   :biglaugh:  

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Offline sulphur

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2008, 08:40:00 PM »
thats got to be the problem.  bending in the handle.   http://www.geocities.com/salampsio/ipe1.htm

look down the page about halfway, this should help with your risers.
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Offline **DONOTDELETE**

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2008, 01:21:00 PM »
make sure the limbs aren't bending to close to the handle or it will pop-off.

Offline Springbuck

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2008, 12:03:00 AM »
If you are putting a block on, you still have to make fade-outs.  The whole point of fades is the gradual transition from stiff to bendy.

  I add a thin lam under the block and run it out onto the wood as part of the fade.  Also, power lam under the backing is a good idea.

  If the pieces fit closely, TB III is all you need.  I thin the glue and put a thin sizing or wash coat on each piece, then check the fit and glue after they are dry..
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Offline Glenn Newell

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Re: Need some help please!!
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2008, 02:55:00 PM »
I glue my handles on as 1/8" laminations and build them up to the depth I want, and as Springbuck said it needs to fadeout into the limb. I have my bows bending off the riser block and haven't had one pop off since I started glueing the handles up in laminations as it will flex when being drawn...Glenn...

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