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Offline TomMcDonald

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First attempt
« on: February 27, 2009, 05:24:00 PM »
Here she is. I'm pretty proud of how it's gone so far.
getting the final shape on the fades and sides and backing with linen today and building a tiller device of some sort.

Now, the tip!  :cry: Will a hardwood tip overlay be the best thing to do here?

 
 
 
 
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 06:38:00 PM »
Hi, What kind of wood is it made from ? You might not have to put a tip overlay on it if it's a hard wood. It is looking good ! Welcome to the world of wood bow building, it's an addictive habit !!
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 07:04:00 PM »
A tip overlay is not necessary on most bow woods but they sure look good. Hardwood, antler, bone, leather saturated with super glue...lots of options!
  Keep us posted with pics. You're getting to the fun part!
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 07:22:00 PM »
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Originally posted by formerbutcher:
Hi, What kind of wood is it made from ? You might not have to put a tip overlay on it if it's a hard wood. It is looking good ! Welcome to the world of wood bow building, it's an addictive habit !!
Yes it's hard wood. spotted gum. Thanks.
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 07:23:00 PM »
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A tip overlay is not necessary on most bow woods but they sure look good. Hardwood, antler, bone, leather saturated with super glue...lots of options!
  Keep us posted with pics. You're getting to the fun part!
Even with the baad bit in my tip?
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 08:26:00 PM »
Looks Good to Me, but I am No Judge on such things.


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Re: First attempt
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2009, 09:43:00 PM »
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Looks Good to Me, but I am No Judge on such things.


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Re: First attempt
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2009, 11:22:00 PM »
I didn't realize you were from down under. I was trying to figure what kinda of wood that was.
Is spotted gum a "hard" wood?   How wide are your tips? You may be able to eliminate the bad area on the left side and fill the part on the back with super glue and saw dust...or add an overlay!
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2009, 11:37:00 PM »
Spotted gum is hardwood and an extremely hard wood.
Tips are 1/4 inch.
I was thinking of gluing the bad part up because it's not that deep.
Also, it's on the belly side, so a tip overlay wouldn't cover it but would only be there to make that area deeper or thicker.
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2009, 11:42:00 PM »
You shouldn't need to do anything with that area. With hardwood you don't need overlays. When you cut your string grooves you may have to dress the edges up if they cross that bad area so it doesn't abrade your string.
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 12:55:00 AM »
Great, thanks Pat B.
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2009, 12:43:00 AM »
Slow day. Backed the bow with some linen.
Is this how it should look?

Also, what glue to use for nock overlays?

 

 
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2009, 10:13:00 AM »
If the linen is attached solidly without air pockets the uneven coloration should even out when you put down your finish. You may want to test it first in a not so obvious area. If you are not satisfied you can stain the back.
   I have used super glue, TiteBond glue and 2ton epoxy for overlays with good results. I have used both thin and gel super glue and both work but the gel is better IMO.
   Be sure to round your back edges before you stress the bow so if there is a potential splinter it will be eliminated or at least relieved.
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2009, 03:08:00 PM »
Yep, it's not air as far as I can tell.
I've rounded them, but will do it again tonight.
I've changed the taper profile to finalise the shape.
 
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2009, 03:11:00 PM »
Looks good. Now lets get it bending!
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2009, 01:50:00 PM »
Looks great so far.  If spotted gum is anything like Sweet Gum we have in Alabama, probably will not need overlays on the tips.  Keep the pics rolling as you work on it, can't wait to see how it turns out.
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2009, 03:30:00 PM »
I've decided to only use tip overlays if handshock becomes an issue.
I'll update as I'm going, I've got a rental house inspection tomorrow so lots of cleaning and no bow making.
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2009, 03:44:00 PM »
If you have hand shock, tip overlays will only add more tip weight and increase the shock.
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Re: First attempt
« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2009, 04:12:00 PM »
OK so I was under the impression I could narrow the tips if they were overlayed, decreasing the shock.
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Re: First attempt
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