Pat, pine tar and pine pitch are different things. pine tar is a product of burning pine stumps ect, the sludge that doesn't burn is the pine tar, it is a thick, goopy and very sticky almost black colored stuff, similar to coal tar. Pine pitch is what oozes from a scar. i guess the two are related, but i don't think there's anyway i would use pine tar for hafting and things like that where you use pitch. I'm actually looking for some pine pitch myself for hafting and i haven't collected any before. do you just go out to the woods and scrape off the oozing globs of it? thanks, Dan.