i shoot one but i didn't make it . mine is one peice hickory with rawhide backing. it is 66" long, pulls 45#@28" draw. i shoot cedar arrows from it that are in the 45-50#spine group its a great shootin bow and ive had it for a long time. it does not have the performance of the glass backed bows ,but its really quiet. its also very forgiving if you dont do everything just right. this was also my first trad bow. check out som of the other self bows made here on the site. mr patb makes some fine lookin bows , ive seen pics . everyone who shoots a self bow can attest that they are not carbon copy bows. each one is very unique in its own way. every selfbow also has its unique beauty.also every selfbow out there is extremely quiet. 10,000 yr old technology still goin strong