Yesturday I met Dale and was completely blown away by his bows,The one he was working on yesturday was a carbon core and bamboo lam shorty 42"strung and was drawing 80#.I have never seen shorter or smoother shooting bows,I intend to take my cam when I go see him next time alongwith a notebook for writing down the points he gives me.His bows are real masterpieces.Hope to learn from him in the future.