Dalaa or Silvertip ....Which to order

[Double Creek]

I owned a Silvertip and I thought it was decent bow, definitely not the best recurve I've ever owned....  I have never shot a DAS, but I do own a WARF and would assume the shooting characteristics are very similar....  I believe the DAS will be MUCH smoother that the Silvertip..  I think the Silvertip will be a lot easier to get quiet....

Both would be good choices...

Have you looked into Border bows?

[coyote Tim]

DAS   infinite configurations. , and  eternel adjustments can be made to match YOU.  Call David over at DAS   he will easily convince You.   I have a DAS master hunter on order now......

[Jeff U]

Originally posted by Ron Chambers:
So is 3 rivers making the DAS now? I don't get it

I'm not sure this is 100% correct but it's probably close.

David Sosa (founder of DAS) is manufacturing the Daala and the bows are being distributed (sold) by 3Rivers.  

The two companies, DAS & 3 Rivers, probably have an exclusive agreement that covers the arrangement.  My guess is that David was getting overwhelmed by the sales, service and marketing hassles.  3 Rivers takes that off his hands and allows him to focus on the design and manufacturing.  At the same time, 3 Rivers gets a high quality, unique bow to sell.

And David can still make a small number of custom high end bows.

Everybody wins.

[vermonster13]

3 Rivers is selling the Dalaa by DAS Kinetics in a deal with David just like they sell Bear bows. If you want a Master Hunter, his "custom" bow, you get it directly from him, no one else sells it.

[Carcajou]

No brainer. SILVERTIP.

[DAS Kinetic]

Just to clarify, I'm building the Dalaa exclusively for 3 Rivers.  That is the only place you can get one.

   I'm still building a small number of the custom "Master Hunter".  There is info about the two bows on my website.

  Both models are built here side by side by me and one assistant with the exception that some of the components on the Dalaa, like the grips, are CNC made.  The Master grips are made by hand so that individual tastes can be accommodated.

   I'd also add that it's an honor to be compared to the Silvertip.  I think Paul and I shared a lot of ideas about what makes a good bow.  It saddens me that I never met him.

David

[SERGIO VENNERI]

Dave;
     Thank you for the kind words about Paul ! You are a class act!
     Also enjoyed watching you on " Masters of the BareBow".

[OH at work]

I've shot both but enjoy the Silvertip more.  The silvertip is a much quieter bow with no vibration. Both bows have a smooth draw.   Some of my opinion is plain personal preference.  When shooting the DAS I was reminded of the Hoyt olympic style bows I shot years ago and just didn't feel like a hunting bow        I know the bows are different than the bows used by my native american ancestors but when I hunt with a wooden bow it seems I am transported back in time.


Joe

[keith brimmer]

DAVE ,NOTHING BUT CLASS MAN

[DAS Kinetic]

Yea, well a few days ago someone was comparing my bow to a Kingfisher.  Now that was insulting   :rolleyes:    :p  

David

[Pinelander]

Well, I can only add my opinion from what I have experienced. Never had a Silvertip, but I did have a Mariah Thermal. It's grip was very similar to a Silvertip. I liked the bow and all, but as is the case with most custom wooden recurves I've owned.... they all pretty much feel and shoot the same. When it comes to speed, I would guess that the Silvertip, Dalaa, and most any of the good recurves are shooting pretty close to each other.

So what does that leave? The adjustability of the Dalaa. Just last night I recieved a new set of limbs for my Dalaa and the results are phenominal.... it can be adjusted from 41# - 48# VERY easily, draw curve is an incredible 2.0-2.2 lbs. per inch from 25"-29", and this bow will be as quiet as any wooden recurve I have ever owned. I know this because I know how to silence recurves.... not just the wooden ones, but the metal ones too.

[waterone]

I have shot a Silvertip, and it shot well. I have a Marriah Thermal, which as Pinelander stated has a grip very much like the Silvertip. I also have a DAS Hunter.  To me, and I am extremly sensitive to vibration due to nerve damage in the neck, there is no vibration in the DAS.  None. There is some vibration in the Marriah.  The Marriah is better than most other bows I have shot.

Additionally, the DAS is quieter than the Marriah and the other bows I have, when set up properly.

The Silvertip is a top-quality, well-engineered wood-riser bow, with good custom limbs.  The Dalaa is an excellent, well engineered metal riser bow, with good Olympic-quality limbs.

waterone

[DAS Kinetic]

OOPS!  I was just told that Hummingbird makes a "Kingfisher".  That was NOT what I was refering too!  I was talking about the cheap little metal bow that PSE makes.  Thanks for helping me out Chad!  I think we need a "foot in mouth" Graemlin    

David

[peter c iacavazzi]

David,

Did you recieve the e-mail I sent you several days ago?

Peter

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

I don't see how you could go wrong with either.

[Seeking Trad Deer]

I am hoping the DAS/Daala bows come down in price.

[ROB TAYLOR]

It seems to me that the initial question, although likely innocently asked...was sort of loaded in the "apples and oranges" way.  The DAS and the Silvertip are both take down recurves...that's about where the similarities end.  I suppose it comes down to, as all bow buying does, priorities.

You have to ask, what are you buying it for?  Like a lot of choices we all make....mate, pickup truck, wardrobe, rifles, shotguns, dogs....the list goes on.....point is, are you looking for competent utility with exceptional eye appeal or exceptional utility with competent eye appeal?  Or maybe your one of the lucky ones who finds one of the choices to have both exceptional eye appeal and utility...but I don't think so, or your two choices wouldn't be so far apart on the recurve spectrum.  Time to just jump down on one side of the fence or the other.  Look at it this way, it really is hard to lose with either choice....just for different reasons.  

-Rob

[OH at work]

Just curious, I normally don't do much 3d shooting so was wondering if there are any restrictions on this type of recurve in 3d shoots? If so do they have their own class??


Joe

[peak98]

To answer ROB TAYLOR's question above, the bow that I decide to order will be for hunting, so a smooth, quiet, forgiving bow is my primary concern. If it's easy on the eyes , then it's just a bonus to me. My main concern is to be able to shoot it accurately, to be able to harvest quickly and humanely. Metal or wood risers don't really matter to me. Kinda like Fords or Chevys, wood arrows or carbons. It's what YOU like, what YOU want. I just want a good hunting bow made for ME. Probably like most members here, I shoot trad because it's what I like to do, what I want to do. I shoot off the shelf, instinctively, with a curve because, to me, its more fun, more of a challenge....and because the sights, releases, overdraws, etc just got to where it was just TOO COMPLICATED, I just didn't enjoy shooting my compound. thanks for all the input, your opinions are greatly appreciated.
peak98

[OH at work]

peak98,  good luck with the bow you choose    


Joe