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Offline canshooter

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HELP...questions before I glue up!
« on: May 10, 2009, 01:09:00 PM »
I am ready to glue my bamboo backing onto my hickory board bow.

A) is there a significant benefit to putting it in a form to reflex, deflex the bow? ( I screwed up the final tillering on the last one I did that way)

B) I have both Titebond III and Urac 185. is one better or easier to work with than the other. What do you guys recommend.

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2009, 01:23:00 PM »
A) yes there is, added performance.
B) I've used both, if you have good tight glue joints I'd use TB III just because it's easier to use and clean up. Poor glue joints will benefit from Urac.
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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2009, 01:31:00 PM »
Thanks Dano, I'll go with your recommendations.

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2009, 01:39:00 PM »
You should pre tiller your belly a bit so it has a nice even bend when you put it into the form. An even taper should do the trick.
   I have used both glues with good results. Like Dano said, each performs best with different glue surface preps.
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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2009, 02:58:00 PM »
Only tip I can add is if your going to add reflex, floor tiller that belly enough to bend fairly easy.  The boo will add alot of wieght I found out.  But you don't want so much material of the belly to counteract the boo reflex induced.

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2009, 07:09:00 PM »
What Pat said! I am working on a BBO bow now that did not take the R/D I expected out of the form. Then I realized I forgot to taper the limbs before gluing up. I now will be making a checklist to follow for each bow!

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2009, 10:21:00 PM »
Thanks to all you guys who responded. In my estimation the greatest thing about the web is the fact that you can ask for help from others with more expertise and experience, and so many are willing to offer a response. All total strangers who enjoy a common pastime. The guys on this forum are great!   :clapper:

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2009, 10:23:00 PM »
Oops, I forgot to mention, I did floor tiller and the bow is now glued up with TB3 and nicely clamped into my form.

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2009, 11:19:00 PM »
We will expect pictures.   :bigsmyl:
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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2009, 09:04:00 PM »
I just took it off the form and cleaned up the excess glue. Here is the picture as requested. I would love to get some input from you guys at this stage.

 

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2009, 10:41:00 PM »
Looks great. Is the handle glued on or part of the stave.
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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 11:10:00 PM »
The handle is part of the stave, but I am going to glue on a block of ash to make the riser thicker. I intend to make a handle that is shaped similarly to a recurve grip and that can have a shelf cut so that it is nearly centre shot.

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2009, 09:18:00 AM »
Sounds good, when you cut in the shelf make sure and leave at least 3/4" of wood, less than that could break.
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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2009, 09:10:00 PM »
Nice job,Mike

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2009, 09:14:00 PM »
Nice looking bow.  I have one that is similar.  It is quite a shooter.  Just tiller it slowly.  The first one hinged on me all of the sudden.

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Re: HELP...questions before I glue up!
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2009, 11:57:00 PM »
Hey guys,
  I'm new to the art of the glue up/reflex/forming wood. Can I assume that all of the curve in the bow is a result of glueing the pieces while it is in the form and then the glue locks the position,or is there wet wood shaping involved?  :banghead:
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