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Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« on: October 02, 2009, 05:33:00 PM »
I'm tillering a Torges BBO blank and need some critical eyes to have a look.

In these pics, the upper limb is on the right.

Unbraced:
 

Now at a 5" brace height:
   

Next is drawn to 10":
   

Now to 14":
   

Finally to 18":
   

It's pulling 55# @ 26" now.  I'm shooting for 55# at 29".

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2009, 05:41:00 PM »
Is the bow asymetrical (shorter lower limb)? An unbraced picture would help too.
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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 06:21:00 PM »
The left limb looks shorter and both could use some more scraping on the out 1/3 of the limbs.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 06:30:00 PM »
Yes, it is assymetrical. The upper limb is 1 1/2" longer.  I'll post an unbraced pic later.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 08:30:00 PM »
I think your outer limbs are too stiff as well. Try to get them bending all the way to the tips but gradually bend lees as they near the tips...Glenn...

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 09:54:00 PM »
It's hard to say about the outer limbs till a guy sees the unbraced shot. If that glue up has a couple inches of reflex the tiller look great.
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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 10:15:00 PM »
Unbraced pic added.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 10:16:00 PM »
I'm going to add a nock.  I don't think I'm hooked in the same spot on the string in a couple of those pics.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 10:21:00 PM »
Yep, I agree the outer limbs need to bend a little more. Whats with all the string grooves?
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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 10:25:00 PM »
What string grooves? I've only got 2.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 10:37:00 PM »
"I'm going to add a nock. I don't think I'm hooked in the same spot on the string in a couple of those pics."

I was talking about this comment. I guess I'm confused.   :D
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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 10:57:00 PM »
I mean an arrow nocking point. I think I'll at least add a piece of tape.  I think the draw point on the string is in a different spot in one of the pics.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2009, 06:09:00 PM »
Okay, as soon as photobucket will save my pic edits, I'll add some new photos. I'm pretty close to where I want it.  Should the upper limb have a little more bend in it?  Right now, when braced, they both measure the same from the string to the high points in both limbs.  Should the upper be about 1/4" more?

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2009, 11:36:00 AM »
outer half of each limb needs to bend more (assuming your not making a holmegaard type of bow).

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2009, 05:41:00 PM »
get the longer, upper limb bending more. The lower limb is taking the main load now, (if it's the left in the picture). A positive tiller fits to most bows, especially to bows with a longer, upper limb.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2009, 01:54:00 PM »
Okay, here it is at a 29" draw:
   

I'm going to put the arrow rest at 1.25" above center. Is this correct? I've got a pencil line drawn that shows just barely above my left hand in the pic.

Right now it feels like the upper limb is a touch stiff. Do you think it looks a little stiff on the outer part of the lower limb?

It's pulling 60# @ 29".  Pretty much on target.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2009, 02:21:00 PM »
How does it shoot with the arrow 1.25" above center? It's not so much the measurement as it is a sweet spot, it could be 1" who knows. The upper limb does look stiffer in the inner third, and both limbs could bend more toward the tips.
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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2009, 03:42:00 PM »
It seems to shoot pretty good at 1.25". It shoots pretty hard and is fairly quiet for not having anything on the string.

I'll shave down the upper a bit and on both towards the tips.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2009, 05:13:00 PM »
"Grip your bow the way it was designed or design it for the way you grip a bow". This way you will always know where the "sweet spot" is.

That 1 1/2" longer upper limb requires a lighter grip. Pictures are had to judge ones grip by but you might want to straighten out your wrist a tad and see how that feels. That will also lessen the strain on the lower limb and engage the upper a little more.

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Re: Need some tiller critique UPDATED...
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2009, 05:22:00 PM »
Art, I need to grip the bow pretty close to what I am in the pic. A formerly broken wrist starts acting up if I straighten it.

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