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Offline bigcountry

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Knife Edging Bamboo
« on: January 20, 2010, 11:39:00 AM »
Last IPE/Boo bow I built, I barrel tapered the boo from 1/8" in the middle down to 1/6" at the tips.  It was pretty flat bamboo, so I then glued it on my IPE and sanded off the sides of the bamboo to the glue line. So basically the bamboo was not knife edged.

I then trapped the bow making a trapazoid cutting more into the boo.  I started having issues at the nodes on the edges where I was pulling up splinters.  So I had to wrap with silk and sinew.

So I thought it might have been where cut into the boo trapping the bow exposing the power fibers.

So next bow, I thought I would knife edge the boo to a shape I want, then make a ledge on the IPE to trap.  In other words, when I trap the limbs, I won't be cutting into the bamboo.  Just trap up to the glue line.  But the bamboo might get aweful thinned knife edging.

Anyone else knife edge?  I read Dean Torges manual on this and he is creating a 60 degree bevel cutting into the bamboo to the glue line on his BBO bows.  And he doesn't seem to have problemw with the power fibers lifting.

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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 01:12:00 PM »
When you trapped and cut more into the boo what method did you use.  :confused:

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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2010, 06:19:00 PM »
Not sure what you mean?  I marked a line on the back (boo) 1/8" or less in, and used a scraper to get to that line without moving the bottom of the belly.

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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2010, 08:50:00 PM »
I was wondering wheather you used a scraper, rasp, sanded or what. I have raised some splinters with a rasp but had better results sanding, haven't used the scraper so probably no help to you.

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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2010, 10:24:00 AM »
It wasn't really raising a splinter yet.  Just the more I tillered it, I could rub my hand up and down the side and feel it getting rougher.  I even sanded it down with 1000-1200 grit to make it mirror smooth.  So I just took precautions and wrapped the nodes.

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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2010, 12:39:00 PM »
Just curious, when you were scraping was it just getting rough at the node?  :confused:

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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2010, 03:08:00 PM »
Did you knock down the node a little? (Without flattening it)

BTW I don't knife edge the boo. I just measure the tickness at the handle (1/8") and taper to the tips (1/16"). The thickness is measured from the center of the crown, to the flat surface. I initially rasp the trap cross section close to where I want it,(after cutting the glue-up to the outline of the boo) then finish up with finer tools and sandpaper.
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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2010, 03:18:00 PM »
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Just curious, when you were scraping was it just getting rough at the node?   :confused:  
Nope, only started getting rough on the edges where you can see the power fibers while tillering.  More I tillered, the rougher it got.

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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2010, 03:23:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Tom Leemans:
Did you knock down the node a little? (Without flattening it)

BTW I don't knife edge the boo. I just measure the tickness at the handle (1/8") and taper to the tips (1/16"). The thickness is measured from the center of the crown, to the flat surface. I initially rasp the trap cross section close to where I want it,(after cutting the glue-up to the outline of the boo) then finish up with finer tools and sandpaper.
So your saying you trap the core first then glue it up?

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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2010, 08:44:00 AM »
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No, I don't trap anything first. The slat is still a rectangle during glue up, then cut to the outline of the boo afterwards. Do you have a copy of Dean's video? I watched that thing half a dozen times before starting my first BBO years ago.
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Re: Knife Edging Bamboo
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2010, 04:08:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Tom Leemans:
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 Do you have a copy of Dean's video? I watched that thing half a dozen times before starting my first BBO years ago.
Yea, I got it, and watched it, but it doesn't really address this issue.  In fact, he cuts into the boo himself when he makes the facets between the core and boo.  

I actually called him the other day and he said he have not had issues at the nodes, but has in between two nodes which surprised me.

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