2 blades and blood trails?

[SuperK]

[SuperK]

I have had good bloodtrails with 2,3, and 4-blade bhs and little or no bloodtrails at all with 2,3,and 4-blade bhs.  I do seem to get an adaquate bloodtrail IF the arrow (or at least the broadhead) is a passthru in a vital area. I try to shoot the biggest broadhead that I can consistantly get thru the other side.  The folks that are shooting  lower poundage bows and/or from treestands don't have as much "wiggle room" in their bh choices as the higher poundage folks do.  So whats the best bh for you? A wide 2-blade, a narrow 3-blade or maybe a 4-blade with small or breakable bleeders? I Don't know...I'm still trying to answer that one for myself!

[SuperK]

Ooops..Sorry 'bout that.  Hit the wrong buttons.

[Jeff Strubberg]

Not true.

Two blades fed your ancestors just fine.  if you decide to stick with a multi-blade, there are some pros here that can point out the cream of the crop.

[kennym]

Heres all I got: this came from a less than desireable hit last fall. On the other hand,I've had super hits that weren't this good of blood.

   


 Regardless of the head type,every shot is different and so is every blood trail.
 I have to agree with  super sharp and good placement along with knowing the quarries anatomy.

Lets go huntin!!  

Oops,Zwickey 2 blade Delta.

[laddy]

I have always been told that my file sharpened single chamfer two blade heads will pull hair and the hole will close up.  Never happened, they don't pull hair through and that jagged hole is usually bigger than the broadhead.  i have found a four blade head that was still razor sharp on a 2419 arrow.  it had a puff ball of dry hair and under that was a a razor sharp broadhead completely covered in bloody hair.

[Terry Green]

I've never seen a need for 2 blades on deer out of the bows I shoot.

[Walt Francis]

I think Kenny summed it up really well: “Regardless of the head type, every shot is different and so is every blood trail.”  
Personally, I use 190 grain grizzly’s and 200 grain trade points with two blades, 145-155grain Eclipse’s with 2 & 4 blades, and Woodsmen’s with 3 blades, out of 55-60# selfbows for deer without much consideration for penetration or blood trails; if the arrow hits where I want it (the result of properly tuned bow, matched arrow, proper form, ect…) good penetration and short blood trails are the result.  My use of four different types of blades is to get different arrows to fly correctly out of a specific bow (I like to make bows, not arrows.).  On larger animals, like bison, I opt for the two bladed Grizzly or trade point for deeper penetration.  Usually, I have at least two types of broadheads in my quiver that hit fairly close to the same spot within in my effective range.

[Rico]

The blood trail is going to come from a hole in the bag all things being equal. The multi bladed with more cutting surface would have to leave a bigger hole for more liquid to spill.
  Things are never equal when it comes to broadheads or hunting.

[jimbob91]

Back in 80's when I was shooting a compound I shot 145g snuffers on 2219XX75s which was a pretty lethal combination even on marginal hits the damage that head caused was tremendous.When I started shooting trad I had a bad experience with a quartering away buck that didnt get a pass thru and that same year I shot down on a buck that didnt get a pass thru(this deer was killed a wk later by my bro-inlaw still carrying the arrow).That made me switch to the magnus.Im not making excuses as both these shots were less than desirable,I just think that out of my 60#longbow I get better penetration with a 2blade bh,and I agree you can killem with a field tip if you getem in the goodies.

[James Wrenn]

To me it is simple..the largest blade with the most cut you can push out the other side is always best.For some that will be multi-blade heads.For others or in cases where contacting a lot of bone is likely that will be the two blade.Regaudless of your choice two holes will always leak better than one.    I shoot lighter bow weights so my choice is the larger two blades.I get two holes and lots of blood.If I shot higher weight bows like some do I would be shooting the biggest 3 or 4 blade I could.The bloodtrail in most cases is very dependant on the hit.Hit them right with the smallest head and you will have a trail to follow.Hit them wrong and bigger is generally better.As far as a deer recovering after a hit better from one to the other goes..to be honest I really don't care.I am there trying my best to kill them anyway.Learn to shoot well and follow up when they are hit and you won't loose many. jmo

[Onestringer]

Like what everyone else says, shot placement is the key.  The only experience I have had is with 2 blade stingers.  Its not a big head, I have shot 5 deer with them and I was not very impressed with the blood trails, and all 5 were lung hits.  I now shoot 4 blade stingers, but I would not hesitate to shoot a 2 blade, I just wish magnus made wound about 1.5 inches wide.

[bowdude]

Charlie with statements like that it makes me think there might be some old pods laying in your drawers some where.

[Terry Green]

I agree with Charlie, and think the pod comment was out of line.

[BobCo 1965]

I just wish magnus made wound about 1.5 inches wide.

They do. From their website:

Magnus 2-blade #MA160
2 1/2 x 1 1/2 inches
160 grains - 11/32" ferrule

Magnus 2-blade #MA135
2 1/2 x 1 1/2 inches
135 grains - 11/32" ferrule

Magnus 4-blade #MA150
2 1/2 x 1 1/2 inches
150 grains - 11/32" ferrule

[BobCo 1965]

I must say that I have had problems with blood trails from 2 bladed heads even with double lunged deer (not that recovery was a problem). But I have also had penetration problems through bone with multiblade heads. But I think that I'm going to try some single beveled 2 bladed heads this year. The spinning motion which has been shown through tissue and bone intrigues me.

[JC]

Originally posted by bowdude:
Charlie with statements like that it makes me think there might be some old pods laying in your drawers some where.

Oooooof....you need to add a couple a smileys or something to that statement, cause I'm sure it's some kind of joke.

As far as broadheads: I like 2 blades, I like 2 blades with bleeders, I like 3 blades...I hunt with all of them. There are probably 50 great broadheads on today's trad market that will all perform wonderfully in anything but the most extreme scenario.

I used to be a die hard proponent of 2 blades only...and still prefer them in some situations, but now that I can get a woodsman as sharp or sharper than my preferred 2 blade models, I often find myself reaching for an arrow with it on the business end. I also find myself asking myself more and more frequently, "If you've got the horsepower, why not use it to push more blades?" Same with 2 blades + bleeders....

[last arrow]

I have used 2 bladed and 4 blade heads (zwickeys and grizzlys) with good results.  When results in penetration or blood trail was less than optimal, I can't really blame that on the head being used.  When you make bad hits, recovery will be more difficult, and it ussually is not going to matter whether you are using a 2 blade or multiple blade head.  Achieve accuracy and your results will be optimized if you are using any good quality sharp braodhead.

[jimbob91]

Ah,I think you pretty much summed it up right there Blaine.I have a question on magnus 2bladesw/bleeders JC do they fly pretty well?What about noise?I remember when I shot snuffers they whistled.

[Charlie Lamb]

If you hit them in the boiler room they will bleed just fine and die as quickly. A high hit with a multiblade doesn't bleed any better than a 2 blade, the cavity has to fill first. If you get a marginal hit with a 2 blade the animal is more likely to recover. A very responsible choice in my opinion.
 

Perhaps I came off a little harsh in my statements, but it was only in the retoric used and not the content that needs changing.

In my own personal experience (so as not to lump everyone else in with my statements) I agree that a two blade or multiblade put through the lungs will kill equally quickly.

A "high hit" can and often DOES bleed better from a multiblade than a two blade. The cavity does NOT have to fill up with blood before there is external "spillage".
The chest cavity is a pressurized chamber and any loose blood can be expelled from pressure alone if the hole is big enough to allow it.... I've seen it many times.

And I stand by my statement alluding to my preference of a broadhead that stands the best chance for killing the animal if the worst happens and not chosing a broadhead because it offers the animal the best chance of survival.

I'm sorry, but that makes no sense to me.

No doubt animals survive horrific wounds from guns and broadheads as well as what the natural world deals up to them.

The number of blades a broahead has has little if any bearing on that.

I apologize if I offended you by my remarks previously. They were not intended personally.

In conclusion, don't worry about what I've got in my drawers I know what's there. Be more concerned with what you've got in yours.