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Offline Bow-cephus

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Snake
« on: March 12, 2010, 12:03:00 PM »
Ok guys I've got a healthy number of rattler skins in my freezer so I figured I would try a couple on a bow. Does anyone know how to prep them ie air dry, salt, snake tan??? I would love to see the progress if anyone has pics.

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Re: Snake
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2010, 01:24:00 PM »
scrape 'em and glue 'em.  You can also air dry them if needed.
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Re: Snake
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2010, 01:33:00 PM »
I would not tan them. Everything I've read here says notto use tanned skins for a bow.

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Re: Snake
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2010, 03:32:00 PM »
Do as John said!  Don't salt them either.
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Re: Snake
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 04:49:00 PM »
I've only skinned 2 bows. I skinned the snakes and scraped all the flesh off. Stapled them to a board flesh side up and let them air dry. Both bows turned out fine. Used contact cement on one and TB 111 on the other. I probably would not use the contact cement again unless the back was very straight and flat.   Paul
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Re: Snake
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 06:51:00 PM »
I never thought about not salting them...we have such a problem with flies and such that I have always tacked them to a board with the flesh side up...salted the heck out of them, and then let them dry.  I have always just wet them good before gluing with TB2 and never had any problems...guess it worked because I didn't know any better... LOL.
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Re: Snake
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2010, 07:03:00 PM »
send some to me and I will test em for you. :-)
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Re: Snake
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2010, 07:52:00 PM »
Be sure to post some pics.  I'm going to keep an eye out for snakes this year...I want to try them as a back also!

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Re: Snake
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2010, 08:40:00 PM »
Thanks guys, it'll be a while but I'll do it!
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Re: Snake
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2010, 11:05:00 PM »
If you don't get all of the salt out of the skins they will collect moisture from humidity and can rot the skins.
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Re: Snake
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2010, 03:06:00 AM »
As far as APPLYING the skins.........read dis!

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Re: Snake
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2010, 11:40:00 AM »
from what i know ya just scrape the fat/meat off them and dry them.im sure some people salt them regularly but if you do youd have to get all the salt out to keep it from sucking up moisture and it may not allow the glue to stick right.if you plan on using a finish like tung oil or CA id dye the wood that will be behind the skins,they tend to go translucent with these finishes.its not a problem really as long as you dont stretch the skins too much while gluing them up,cus the skin in between the scales is what goes translucent.they look awesome if finished with tung oil despite the hazard, just steel wool and/or sand between coats.    
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Re: Snake
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2010, 11:43:00 AM »
that pic isnt great but you can see the spaces between the scales. it also shows that its pretty smooth. i got like 10 light coats of tung oil on these.sealed the edges with superglue/CA and smoothed it over with light sanding and steel wool.i used tbIII to glue them on
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Re: Snake
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2010, 12:40:00 PM »
I leave my shop door open in the summer and to prevent the flies buzzing my shop and skins I use salt!

Pin the skin to a thin board and salt it down real good!
 

After a few days in the hot building the pins are removes and the skin is scraped free of salt.
Wait till the wife aint looking and sneak the skin to the bathroom sink and shut the door. If the wife asks,,, tell her you're shaving or something to keep her at bay.
 

A good dose of dawn dishwashing liquid and some warm water will remove the remaining salt and some of the skins natural fats that may hinder glue performance.
 

Now it can be patted dry with a paper towel and returned indefinitly to the shed. You can let it dry out if you wish but you'll need to soak the skin agin before applying it as a backing. It needs to be wet and plyable to form well to the bow.
The wife did catch me and would not let me bring it back in the house. Had to use a bucket in the shed.
 

Looks like I't will fit a locust stave,,, black snake on black locust?
 

Outline the bow on the skin a tab bit largere than the bow.
 

Trim out along the lines and get the pattern centered down the back.
 

A little Acetone to prepare the wood and remove dust, hand oils, etc.
 
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Re: Snake
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2010, 12:51:00 PM »
Okay, now it's ready for glue.
 

Apply a thin tripe of TB
 

I kinda like the hands on style
 

Apply damp skin to back
 

Smooth out skin with a wet finger or two and wrap lightly with an ace bandage.
 

Ditto down the other limb
 

Unwrap the bandage a few days later
 

Clean up the skin on and around the tips
 
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Re: Snake
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2010, 01:01:00 PM »
Rat tail file the sides clean of skin
 

Use some shipping tape to remove left over scales
 

Lay it out in the yard to spook the wife. You should wait at least a week before trying to bend the bow after this process. The moisture from the glue and skin must dry before stringing and shooting can begin
 
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Re: Snake
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2010, 02:27:00 PM »
great step by step. i read your post awhile back about gathering and constructing everything to hunt with.definitly inspiring
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Re: Snake
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2010, 07:40:00 PM »
Very cool looking!  Is there any place I can buy skin to try?

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Re: Snake
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2010, 11:40:00 AM »
I just staple them to my plywood shop door and scrape the meat real good. Then set my heat gun on the low setting, wave it back and forth till it is dry,(about 15 minutes). Take down and roll it up in a Zip- Lock till I'm ready to use.

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Re: Snake
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2010, 08:38:00 AM »
I've just air dried them and I also salted one down.  I won't salt them again.  They did fine just air drying.

As to darkening the wood.  I've only done one skin backing and it was on hickory.  I colored the back with a permanent marker first then lightly sanded it to even out the color.  Not sure if it helped bring out the skin color or not since it's the only one I've done but the colors of the rattlesnake skin are very clear and sharp.

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