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Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« on: March 14, 2010, 05:59:00 PM »
Cut a sapling last winter and dried it out. The tree was only 4" or 5" across. I guess the witewood to heartwood ratio was so that it split itself lengthwise in several long slits as it dried. I should have split it then!
About 4 months ago I reduced the sapling down by splitting it along the splits caused when it dried out. The rough staves have been laying in my building since.

The bottom center of the osage sapling was all punky wood. This left me very little heartwood to make a bow from. But, I did end up with two staves 66" long and about 1 1/2" wide to play around with.
I decided to leave the whitewood on to have enough wood to work with. So,,, the belly will be a very thin layer of heartwood backed by the natural thickness of the whitewood or sapwood.
To make them a little different I left the bark on the backs in the none working portions of the handles and the handles are left wide at this point.
   

Then the staves were shaped and the under layer of bark was scraped off to the 1st whitewood layer or ring. This picture shows between the vice at the handle out to where I have scraped off the softer under layer of bark. Even though it is whitewood it still has some osage yellow tint to it.
   

A few thorns popped right off with the bark. They can give ya a pretty good stick. Saplings have thorns!
   

Not a good close up picture but here at an old limb hole there is a small verticle crck and was caused by drying. I think it will be okay, I'll fill it with super glue before tillering.
   

Needs a little heat bending!
   

I thought there may be issues with heating the whitewood but it did well.
I use a little mineral oil, a heat gun and a pair of leather padded visegrips and eyeball the twist. Just holing it till it cools is the hard part but it works for me.
   
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2010, 06:00:00 PM »
Here is a pic from the side of the rough worked fade and handle area to show the thick whitewood baking and the thin heartwood belly.
     
     
   

A shot of the back of one of the two staves
     

Belly shot
     

The two about ready for the tiller tree
   

Well I put one on the tiller tree but decided to go ahead and make a caul to put in a bit more reflex. I bet the whitewood will be better off with that reverse set before tillering begins
 

Side by side, two sapling staves from the same tree
 
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2010, 06:42:00 PM »
Looks good Joe, are one of these your swap bow?
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2010, 06:45:00 PM »
Looking forward to seeing how this one turns out. Looks good so far.
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2010, 06:56:00 PM »
Purty darn nice Joe..

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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2010, 07:34:00 PM »
Lookin' good! Jawge

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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2010, 08:15:00 PM »
Kris, I don't think so. Just some practice.

The swap deserves a hunting bow of solid heartwood!
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2010, 08:28:00 PM »
Neat!!!!!
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2010, 11:35:00 PM »
Cool build Joe. I like sapling osage. The whitewood is stronger than most folks think. I have made bows with a few rings of sapwood, 50/50 sap/heart wood and all sapwood and all made good bows. When you don't have access to much osage you use what you can get!  d;^)
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 09:25:00 PM »
I have been wanting to cut a new growth limb that is about that same size.  Maybe Thursday is the day.  Thanks for posting this.  They look great.
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2010, 02:06:00 PM »
looks good man! That is how I remove all my twist too. By hand does suck, but it works well.
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2010, 04:09:00 PM »
I didn't use a caul after all... Decided to see what the osage sapwood is made of.
Here is one of the staves after tillering to about 4"
 


More tllering & about 6" of brace
 


At about 27" draw. Could use some more tillering

A little handle work. note the bark left on at the handle
 
 


After shooting a bit
 
 

Back after a coat of true oil
 
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2010, 04:09:00 PM »
Belly showing heartwood
   

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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2010, 05:47:00 PM »
Looks real good Joe. What are the specs?

I noticed the handle of the drawknife is that your tally sheet??

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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2010, 06:46:00 PM »
Nice work Joe. A good friend of mine,Sonny Iman,made really nice bows from Osage saplings.Sonny would add a handle section, glue and lash it with rawhide lace. They were stunning and full of character.

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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2010, 09:39:00 PM »
Bluegill, yes I started keeping track at some point in the game. Only shooters get a mark!

Specs are 66" nock to nock 48# @ 27".

Trying to add some tip overlays to the other sapling. It's gonna be different!   :o
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2010, 10:28:00 PM »
Cool bow, Joe. It sure doesn't take much osage to make a hunting weight bow?
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2010, 11:54:00 PM »
Pretty darn Sweet!
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2010, 07:26:00 AM »
Very nice Joe!
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Re: Sapling Osage (Sapling Sister's Finished)
« Reply #19 on: March 21, 2010, 10:58:00 AM »
No it doesn't take much osage to make a hunting bow....
Here's a comparison to one of my heart wood bows at 62" 60# @ 28" VS sapling 66" 48# @ 27".  
The Pic shows the thickness above handle and fade.
The difference here is heartwood vs sapwood, length of bows and limb widths. The limb thickness is about the same.
The sapling is 1 1/4" wide at the fades and tapers to 1/2". The heartwood bow is 1 3/8" wide at the fades to mid limb then tapers to 1/2".
   
   

Before & After, 1st stave
 
 

Started on the 2nd sapling this morning. Wanted to try something different and recently got an idea from one of the tradgang posts. I believe it was Keenan???

Here's one of the tips. They might be a little long and add a bit to the handshock factor but, I think they look cool!
   
   

Here's the other end
   

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