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Author Topic: Economical Foam for fixing target?  (Read 630 times)

Offline Hornseeker

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Economical Foam for fixing target?
« on: February 12, 2008, 09:55:00 PM »
Do you guys know of a cheapo deluxe foam that I can use to fix my Mckenzie deer target... there seems to be a massive void in his heart/lung area!! :0)

Also...has anyone used foam to fill a box and make a target???

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 10:01:00 PM »
Sounds like a good problem. I have used the insulating foam in the can from the local home supply store, doesn't hold up as well as the original but it is not very expensive, easy to use and you can trim the expanded portion with a knife.
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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2008, 10:39:00 PM »
Hornseeker are you bragging? I think Krewson? Had a post showing how he wrapped targets in plastic wrap and then filled target with foam.
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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2008, 11:03:00 PM »
Choose a minimal expansion polyeurathane spray foam, it will produce results closer (not identical) to your 3-D's origional foam than maximum (triple) expansion foam.  Do not wrap since air is necessary for the foam to cure.  Fill deer in place until the foam begins to run out, then stop, cure, and repeat.  When the core is filled (okay, over-filled and looks all misshapen), trim with a serrated bread knife.  This will give you about 1/3 the origional shooting time you had with the origional and is really only good to do once.  
Also, you may find the foam adhering to certian arrows.  I shoot woodies and have very little trouble with this but if your shooting alluminum or carbons at high velocity, well...
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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2008, 06:48:00 AM »
There is a guy who sells 2 part urethane kits for this task. I think they are in pints or quarts. He is at alot of the trad shows I think he is from wisconsin.

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 07:41:00 AM »
Walmart carries "Great Stuff" foam and it works really well. I wrap my target with plastic and cut a small hole and stick the nozzle in and fill er up. I have shot many shots into my repaired targets and the holes seal right back up.
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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2008, 09:33:00 AM »
I've tried the foam insulation in a can, but much prefer the $20 kit from suppliers such as LAS for the specific use of repairing foam targets.  I bought 10 used targets from the local club for $150, with shot out vitals, and repaired them with 2 $20 repair kits.  Holding up well, and the repair foam is tough. Bill G.

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2008, 11:46:00 AM »
I wrap mine, before shooting the foam in. It will cure because the wrapping isn't completely air tight.It just takes a little longer to set up. It  helps compress the foam and make it a little more dense. I'm still shooting targets that are ten years old using this method. The kit probably works better, but I haven't tried it.

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 12:10:00 PM »
I do the same with the kit, mix &  wrap quickly with plastic and masking tape over the liquid when I pour it in, and let the foam expand into every crack & crevice.  Works great. Bill

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 12:12:00 PM »
The best target repair kit you can get is made by George Ver Haagh. He's the guy that T Folts is talking about.

Georges repair kit should realy be called a target "restoring" kit because when you're finished you basicly have a brand new target. The foam he uses is very high density and is very similar to the original material.

I think a kit is around $30 or so. Here's the contact info:

George Ver Haagh
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1713 Chicago St.
De Pere, WI 54115
920-337-4704
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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 01:54:00 PM »
I've repaired quite a few targets with George's 3-D Country kits.  The foam is really better than the original McKenzie,  I would be a little leery of having it mailed during cold weather, but I'm sure a call to George could verify whether or not you need to wait for warmer weather.  All-in-all, it's great stuff and a lot better than "Great Stuff"!
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Offline Chris Surtees

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 02:15:00 PM »
I have used spray foam with good results. Wrapped the target in plastic like everyone and sprayed the foam in. Also used to get some color matched or as close to spray paint to finish it off. Then take a dermal tool and either redo the scoring rings or create some vitals.

That 3-D kit looks pretty good. I am going to have to give it a try.

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 04:33:00 PM »
Great Info....thanks all!

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 04:38:00 PM »
Does anyone know what foam Rhinehart uses? Or any way to find out?? That stuff is INCREDIBLE!

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2008, 07:01:00 PM »
George can tell you what foam any manufacturer uses.

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2008, 08:34:00 AM »
IMO that stuff that George sells at the shoots is really topnotch stuff. When fully cured the patch is just like a Rhinehart target.
With that said I still use GreatStuff in the red can. GreatStuff is just way cheaper to use. I can get it anyday of the week, Home Depot is just 20 minutes away.
The trick to getting a good patch with the spray foam is compression, which Mr. Krewson eluded to in his repair thread. What I like to do is use shrink wrap and completely wrap the target as tight as I can. Then fill the cavity with the foam, lay the target down on a firm  surface patchside up,and then weigh it down with as much weight as I can manage. I have plenty of bluestone around so that's what I use atleast 250+ pounds. If done right you don't even have to do any trimming of excess foam.
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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2008, 01:58:00 PM »
I also use Great Stuff but I'll also stray my target with bed liner coating you can get in a can. Fills in the little holes and cracks pretty good and makes the great stuff foam tougher.
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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2008, 04:56:00 PM »
Thanks again for all the good info! I've got one to fix, and I want to make a "block" with a cardboard box...but all the foam I"m looking at would make about $150 target! Nope.

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Re: Economical Foam for fixing target?
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2008, 07:08:00 PM »
Do Ya Add Coloring? As You Spray with an "Atomizer" Kinda Deal, or Just Paint it as Needed??
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