i have to say, i havent posted much on this thread, but there were alot of nice bows made and passed on to their recipients. im in awe of every bowyers craftsmanship.there are a few stand outs from the crowd, i think y'all already know who you are. a big thanks to stick-n- strings for providing me with a stave, and some other materials along with it. i also appreciate mr pat and sticks big time for their extencive knowledge and the willingness to pass it on. semo hunter you are not forgotten you instruction in the spoke shave will always be treasured . kelly g, i salute you big time your coordanation efforts while abroad is above and beyond the call of any mans duty. fish, we are forever tied together because you hold one of mine its my first bowchild, and may you make her a killer. rv