it looked to be bout 6ft or so, so i knew it wasn't arrows. upon further inspection i confirmed that it was indeed a bow, and it was from san antonio,tx, and was made by fellow tg'er juan menchaca. it's a r/d osage self bow with buffalo horn tips. it's a very smooth, fast bow, and a pleasure to shoot. in the past i've not been able to shoot self bows very well, but this one is different. it shoots right where i'm looking. i got three weeks to practice with her till deer season comes in, so hopefully i'll have her dialed in by then. thanks a million juan. i'll get some pics on here as soon as i get my camera back from my wife.