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Offline Dick in Seattle

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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2011, 01:24:00 AM »
Jan. 26 - Update 2 -Tillering and Shaping the Riser
 
 

This picture has nothing to do with the swap bow... It's Jesse working on a riser on the new sander. Nice shot and I couldn't resist including it.
 
 

Next step is the limb alignment test. Just braced, the bow looked straight, string nicely centered full length. However, alignment problems are supposed to show up worst at about 16", so I have a 16" brace I put in the bow and then recheck. No problem here. Fortunately, I have rarely encountered this problem. Bless narrow limbed, deep core longbows!
 
 

Final check on the tillering board. Lower limb is to the right and shows about 1/2" less bend than the upper, which is a bit more positive tiller than I normally like. I'll do a bit of extra sanding on the lower and should end up between 1/8" and 1/4".

  

I usually like a narrower tip than this. It will be narrowed a bit, but again, because I'm trying to lose a minimum of weight in the finishing process, I can't just slim the limb down. This is the upper tip.
 
 

And the lower tip.

 

Next I shaped up the riser, slimming it and curving the back edge inward. You'll note that I carried the gradual narrowing in to the shoulder further up the limb than I had drawn on the drafted plan. It just looked right. It's always easier to start short and then go long than it is to do the reverse! This is going to look real nice.
 
 

The belly side has been rounded and the limbs brought in to what will be their points.
 
  

A tiny bit more sander work cut in a gentle, minimal dish and left the riser feeling real good in the hand.

I always try to do something new or different on every bow. This piece of myrtle somehow didn't thrill me. It's too plain and gray. I decided to try staining this bow, something I've never done before. the top piece of wood is a leftover from the riser blank with the stain on it. It will make the myrtle almost match the red elm accent lam and will also stain the edges of the bamboo lams a more yellow tone.
  
Oops! I started to say that this was the last building update, with only mouse and hand sanding left, but I just realized I still have to cut in the shelf. I'm sure those following this as a build along will want to see that, so I guess I will be posting one more set of pics. I have a shooting student coming down tomorrow so I guess that will be Friday.

The finishing process will take longer than usual as I don't want to use TruOil on top of another brand/type of finish. The stain is a MinWax product and the recommended over finish is MinWax Wipe On Poly, which I've used on bows before. It just takes longer to dry between coats.

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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2011, 03:11:00 AM »
Looking good Dick,
I know the guys just starting out in glass and those who what to start glass will be book making this.
Heck I bet Joe is even tempted to book mark it.
And the folks thing I am busy. You are teaching a young Bower, and have a shooting student, plus the bow swap.
God Bless and Happy Building,
Kelly

p.s. I am sure ******* is dieing to see their Bow complete;)

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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2011, 08:10:00 AM »
Nice work Dick, I like all your little gadgets on the bench that shows great problem solving skills.

I especially like the two pegs in the top of the bench one resting against the riser and one near the bottom limb. You use these to string the bow while it's in this stage I assume?

Also the nock cutting jig, I'll be making myself one of those, that's a neat idea.
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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2011, 08:21:00 AM »
Nice looking Dick, love the set up and watching the bow come to life.
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« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2011, 09:35:00 AM »
Looking good bow. I like to see it unfold.

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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #45 on: January 28, 2011, 12:21:00 AM »
Jan. 27 Update - Cutting in the Shelf

I got a real early start this morning and my shooting student was delayed as his trip involved a ferry, so I got a lot done. I got the shelf cut in and all of the mouse sanding done. All that's left is the hand sanding to prepare the wood and glass for finish. The next set of pix really will be the final pix in this presentation.
 
  

I cut the shelf with these rasps and files. It's really hard to find a quality round rasp of a good diameter. This one came from Italy via a lot of searching on the internet. The long square file has one edge ground "safe" on my knife grinder, so that I can file a selected surface without damaging the one next to it. The big rasp is not the famous Nicholson, but one I found that was much less expensive and has proven fully adequate.
 
  

For this operation I mount my gunstock vice on the bench, again using one of the dog holes. Note the support blocks. These live under the bench and can be arranged to provide support for a variety of operations. Here, they solve a problem that resulted from a mistake on my part. I dished the riser too soon. I should have waited till after this operation so that the riser still had two flat sides. With the dish, much of the contact surface was gone and it wasn't too stable in the vice. With the support, I could grip the riser relatively lightly and still cut with the rasps.
 
 

Always cut toward the center of the bow, cutting only on the inward stroke. It's not a big problem on the wood, but if you try to cut on an outward stoke on the glass, you'll pull fibers from the glass. Go slow or you can get chatter marks in the wood. Here I have started the shelf cut with the round rasp on the wood, just below the end of the glass, then turned the bow around to cut the glass side in.
 
 
 

The glass side has been cut in. I leave a very slight crown to the work, so that the arrow will have minimal wood contact. The shelf has now essentially been established and only has to be cleaned out to final shape.

 

The lengthening of the sight window is accomplished with the big rasp. Here I've tipped the rasp up so you can see the cutting surface. This is actually the fine side! This rasp is used very carefully and slowly, with little pressure, essentially letting its weight do the cutting.
 
 

The sight window has been opened up and what is left is to clean up and shape the edges and the bottom, fully establishing the crown on what will be the side plate. Cleanup is also needed in the bottom corner where the shelf joins the sight window.
 
 

I used a narrow round file to clean up the inside edge, then used the square file with the safe edge to add a gentle arc to the surface of the shelf, again so that the arrow will have minimal surface contact. The shelf is 1/4" deep plus or minus depending on how the work goes.
This whole process took just over half an hour.
 
  

Next step is to sand the riser and the limb edges with the mouse sander, starting with 50 grit on the edges to round them from their square profile to a curve or angle in from both back and belly. I normally do a bit more of this limb shaping than I did on this bow since, as you will remember, I am trying to lose as little draw weight as I can. Sanding proceeds with 80, then 120 and finally 150 grit pads. When on the 80 grit, I use the mouse to shape up the tips and make them attractive. Note the support block clamped in the end vice. This give you a more solid approach to the limb edges and prevents the limb from picking up the sander vibrations and rattling against the bench top, which reduces the effectiveness of the sander and is also annoying.
 
 
Next step is the hand sanding, which will start with 150 grit paper, going over the riser and the glass, to take off the glass's protective glaze so that the finish will adhere. Additional hand sanding will go through 180 to 300 grit papers. Two coats of finish will be applied and rubbed out, then the lettering will be put on, then two more coats of finish. Next set of pix will be the finished bow, ready to be shipped.

Dick
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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #46 on: January 28, 2011, 09:54:00 AM »
Well now dick this is a great build and I know ******** will be blown away when they see you next pics and then it at there door step.
Thanks for sharing the build with use.
Kelly

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« Reply #47 on: January 28, 2011, 11:17:00 AM »
Dick, that is a good looking bow!  Thanks for the buid along.
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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #48 on: January 28, 2011, 01:05:00 PM »
I absolutely LOVE watching Dick make bows....learn a little something every time I do.
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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #49 on: January 28, 2011, 01:18:00 PM »
OK, I have just one question from Dick, just how is it that when you do it, it seem so easy?  Man you are good sir, dang good!  I sure enjoy your bow builds.
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« Reply #50 on: January 28, 2011, 01:30:00 PM »
Dick your build alongs are always some of my favorites.  You sir are a good bowyer and storyteller to boot.  Nice job, someone will be real happy with that bow.

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« Reply #51 on: January 28, 2011, 02:05:00 PM »
Well, thanks, guys!   :)   It's really nice to hear that stuff because building those big pages after a day in the shop is definitely work. Keeps me from my beauty sleep! I consider myself far from professional, but I do enjoy sharing what I learn.  

I'm sitting here kind of celebrating...   I went to the dentist this morning and found I had the wrong day!   No dentist appointment and a full day to play!  So I stopped and got Starbucks treats for everyone.  I have a vente brew and a forbidden fruit from the donut tree...

Hope to get finish on the bow and a dozen arrows fletched before the sun sets... Yee ha!  Git along little bowyer....
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« Reply #52 on: January 28, 2011, 02:08:00 PM »
i cant wait to see it finished dick you do some fine work. and you have some awesome tools to tinker with for sure . ruddy
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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #53 on: January 28, 2011, 05:36:00 PM »
You done talked me into building a hill style bow Dick.

 Guess Ineedto get after it when I get my trade bow done.

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« Reply #54 on: January 28, 2011, 06:39:00 PM »
Sticks... Ah, now you see my evil plan...  One by one, true D bows shall take over the land once again and archery shall be simple, as it was in days of yore!

The Old Phartt's First Rule of Archery:

"A bow is just a spring that throws a stick.  Try not to complicate it!"

To be honest, I have grave doubts about shelves...

Dick
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« Reply #55 on: January 28, 2011, 09:15:00 PM »
Beautiful work, Dick. Maybe your plan for the future will gain favor through these threads.
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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #56 on: January 30, 2011, 07:27:00 PM »
Finished Bow

Hurray! The long journey is over... Here is the finished bow. I am having to post it in two posts.  The server wouldn't accept the usual 8 photos for some reason.

I did not show a photo with the specs because that would perhaps enable the swap recipient to identify his bow before he got it.

Also, as I processed the photos, I realized I should have given it a final rub down, but what can I say, I was over-anxious. It still has some dust streaks and smudges from being on the bench for the wrap and string making. It'll get rubbed down and shipped tomorrow.

Important Note:  For those who have been following this build and hope to return to it in the future... It won’t stay up too long.  My Photobucket files are too full and too active.  Once this material cycles down a page or two, I will be pulling the photos.  If you want to save this (or the sander conversion material) save the pages now and put them on disk.  Even better, make them PDF files.  With most print programs, this is easy to do.   Save the page, then select “Print”.  Most printer programs will have a “Save as PDF” button.  You use this to save a nice PDF version wherever you want it.    The material will also be placed permanently on my own web site:   www.dickwightman.com   “Archery Activities”

Meet “Trad Pole”
 
 

Unstrung... sorry for the bright light, but it does show the profile.
 
 

Strung
 
 

This shot shows the colors... black glass, boo, red elm, boo, myrtle riser.
 
 

Reverse side

Rest in next post....
Dick in Seattle

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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #57 on: January 30, 2011, 07:28:00 PM »
Second Section of Final Pictures


   

I was going to name it Trad Stick, but it didn't like that...

   

As mentioned in the build notes, I like my tips narrower, but I was trying to maintain draw weight, which came out right in the middle of the recipient's wanted range.
 
   

Jeff showing the bow at full draw.
 
   

I shot the first one, Jeff shot the next two. I told him to stop for the photo. Heck, I ain't stupid!
 
There you have it. It's been a good, fun build and actually and makes a good update to my building practices.  Thanks to all who have followed along and offered comments.  The encouragement always helps.

Up till now, all the anticipation has been among the potential Herkimer Q. Wheezby's out there.  Now it's mine as I await Herk's reaction       :)  
 
Captain Dick
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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #58 on: January 30, 2011, 07:39:00 PM »
Great looking bow Dick.  Someone is gonna be real happy!

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Re: Dick's Bow Swap Build - Part 2 - Final Pix Added - Page 4
« Reply #59 on: January 30, 2011, 07:41:00 PM »
Nice Job Dick...package that baby up and get it to Peoria IL!  Its going to make a happy guy trad ganger.

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