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Offline Flyboy718

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Glue brands
« on: February 04, 2011, 04:00:00 PM »
Was picking up some Titebond II at the store the other day and right next to it was some Gorilla wood glue.  How would it compare to Titebond?  Are there any other inexpensive wood glues acceptable to use besides Titebond that are readily available at the hardware store?
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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 04:03:00 PM »
Don't use that gorilla,,,, it expands!!
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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 04:27:00 PM »
TBII or TBIII for me, I was never real impressed with Gorilla glue or epoxy. It's fine for furniture and my father uses it as such, but I don't care for it to use on anything else.
I have not had a single problem with the Tite Bond glues. Just don't use it to glue flax on the back of a bow, it doesn't like to flex much.
But for wood to wood adhesion it's great.
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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 04:40:00 PM »
Main difference between TBII and TBIII?
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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2011, 05:02:00 PM »
TBIII is waterproof and has a slightly different color to it.  Their bond strength is comparable for bow making purposes.  Because TBIII is waterproof, many prefer it over TBII.  As others have said, don't use the Gorilla glue for bow building.  It excels at bonding loose fitting parts because it expands as it dries but it is also brittle and unsightly for fine woodwork and/or bowmaking in my opinion.

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Re: Glue brands
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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2011, 06:49:00 PM »
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Originally posted by vanillabear?:
Gorilla glue makes a regular yellow/white wood glue that is not a foaming glue. I've never used it, but I'll bet it works fine. The one I think everyone is warning against is the original brown colored gorilla glue. While the yellow gorilla wood glue probably works fine, TBI,II,and III are easy to find and are proven to work well in wood bow building applications.
Yes, that is what I was referring to, not the brown gorilla glue, but the white/yellow; the label appears to be the same stuff as TBII.
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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2011, 07:12:00 PM »
I used a elmer's orange exterior glue on two bows, it work fine and is water proof. But I started using TBIII this summer and like it much better.

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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 08:27:00 PM »
If you guys are going to build bows, you need to get a good bow glue. URAC185 is the best for wood to wood or wood to boo. And it is bullet proof. You can mix by volume or weigh it out on a scale. You can get a pint for $5.50 and that will make 5 or 6 bows 66 inches long. Smooth On is also good stuff for horn tip over lays, little more expensive but will make a ton of bows and other bow projects.  Trust Me on this one.

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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 09:27:00 PM »
Roy you need a hot box for urac and smoothon right?

Us lowly new bowyers are mostly doin board bow..lol

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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2011, 09:37:00 PM »
you don't need an oven for urac. you need to keep the liquid part in the refrigerator or it will go bad. good stuff though.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2011, 09:39:00 PM »
Not for Urac, it dries in 10 hours at 65. Less time at higher temps, so a low heat hot box would aid in drying time. At 90 degrees it dries in 2 hours. However, I let my bow's clamped for 24 hours, just because:) Smooth On dries a little slower, but even still, 24 hours at 65 or so works.

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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2011, 11:26:00 PM »
Heck, maybe I should try some Urac...it's cheaper than TBII or III
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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2011, 12:21:00 AM »
That gorilla wood glue works well for furniture and odds &ends but it sets up very very quick,Ive not used it on a bow for that reason, I like TB 3, The water proof part is most important to me.
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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2011, 10:17:00 AM »
Ive used tb3 to glue up a lot of bows and never had a problem with it. Good stuff.

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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2011, 08:48:00 PM »
I have used TB3 with only a few problems. it is cheap, easy to use, and works well, but it did give me some problems with boo to ipe.  I tried URAC 185 because you don't need an oven to use it, and holy cow i love that stuff now.  I didn't pay to ship it, i just bought it at a local wood store. 19 dollars but it was a 2 qt can.  now the hard part is learning not to mix too much, as i was used to slathering TB3 on everything.

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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2011, 09:32:00 PM »
Ya all can use TB1, 2, or 3. But you can not beat URAC185. We spend hours making a bow. Why not use a good glue?

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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2011, 09:50:00 PM »
I agree on the Urac.  I believe it would be better than the Titebond.  Although I have shot and have a bow with Titebond used and they work fine.  As for longterm I dont know.
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Re: Glue brands
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2011, 01:31:00 PM »
Gorlla glue is not suited for bowyer's work.

TiteBond III is much better.

Urac-185 is tops.

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