Why isn't there a decent Bamboo Backed Osage build along?

[John Scifres]

There is a huge difference between reproof and abuse.

 

“Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.” (Prov 9:8)

[b.glass]

Do you have pictures of what you have so far? In Dean's DVD he preps the boo which gets it to a sharp edge on the sides, traces the pattern of the bow using a template, cuts out the boo on a band saw then thins it further with hand tools, then uses Urac 185 in glue up on the wood that is wider than the boo. After the glue has cured he cuts the wood on a band saw using the boo for a guide.

[SEMO_HUNTER]

Originally posted by b.glass:
Do you have pictures of what you have so far? In Dean's DVD he preps the boo which gets it to a sharp edge on the sides, traces the pattern of the bow using a template, cuts out the boo on a band saw then thins it further with hand tools, then uses Urac 185 in glue up on the wood that is wider than the boo. After the glue has cured he cuts the wood on a band saw using the boo for a guide.

That's about what I did, same concept but in reverse order. I already had the limb profile roughed out on my Osage blank because originally it wasn't going to have a backing of any kind. So the boo was an after thought and the Osage limbs were already near profile dimensions and I left the boo about 1/8" wider than the limbs. Very similar to what Eric did in his bamboo backing repair along.
I've taken some pics all along the way, but like Eric I didn't get any of the actual glue up because I had the stuff all over my hands by the time it was clamped up. I did get the before and after. I'll post them later if you want to see them or I could email them to ya. Just PM me your email address and I'll send you what I have so far.

[beetlebailey1977]

Semo...I agree with you I learn on my own but I like to get as much information as I can from as many people as possible.  Short of seeing some one do something pictures can be the best thing, if they are done properly.  Also it is so easy for someone to take written words the wrong way and get offended.

[don s]

semo, i prep my boo by hand using a rasp. i got a UBR10 rasp from 3rivers archery. it makes short work of the boo. of course a planer would be much faster and easier but i don't have one. i take the boo to a sharp edge on the sides like b.glass mentions in the above post. then i use a scraper to get it perfect for gluing to the osage. i am also one who bought deans video. don

[SEMO_HUNTER]

Originally posted by don s:
semo, i prep my boo by hand using a rasp. i got a UBR10 rasp from 3rivers archery. it makes short work of the boo. of course a planer would be much faster and easier but i don't have one. i take the boo to a sharp edge on the sides like b.glass mentions in the above post. then i use a scraper to get it perfect for gluing to the osage. i am also one who bought deans video. don

I thought about that myself Don, but since it was my first time prepping boo I was afraid I'd pull up a bunch of splinters. I can see now how easy it is to get a bad splinter in the backing even though you think you did everything right. When I was sanding the edges after I cut out the rough profile the splinters just started climbing off the edges everywhere. That kinda freaked me out a little bit so I cleaned them off with some sand paper before glue up.

Do you rasp the edges round later on before tillering? When you have the profile all prettied up? I doubt that you would leave them square.
Any thoughts, advice, or tips on that would be much appreciated.

[Roy from Pa]

Wes that was a great link, thanks Dude. Semo ya got my e-mail addy, ask any questions ya need dude. Or I'll give ya my cell number and you can call me. Not saying I am an expert at BBO bows, but been building them for 8 years.  

Other than that guys, Let's keep these threads respectful. It's a Tradgang Rule...

[Lee Slikkers]

Hey Semo, if Roy Pm's ya his cell # maybe we could do a "Traveling Cell Advisor" and PM his info to a couple hundred folks who sign up...
         

[Roy from Pa]

LOL Lee:)

[Lee Slikkers]

Cheers Roy!

[horseapple]

life gives you nothing for free, my post was an honest one, the internet has givin great advise, ask Dean Torges the same ? and he'll tell you the same, get out and make some shavings, the best teacher is learning on your own, wasn't intended to be harse, see the smiley face? Been alot of bamboo build alongs in the past, unfortunantly most have gone away, seeing that your from MO I would recommend making Mojam this yr. Cheers bud.

[Roy from Pa]

Semo is from MO? Well that explains it:) Think I'll call him Elmo from here on out:)

[don s]

Originally posted by SEMO_HUNTER:
 

Originally posted by don s:
semo, i prep my boo by hand using a rasp. i got a UBR10 rasp from 3rivers archery. it makes short work of the boo. of course a planer would be much faster and easier but i don't have one. i take the boo to a sharp edge on the sides like b.glass mentions in the above post. then i use a scraper to get it perfect for gluing to the osage. i am also one who bought deans video. don

I thought about that myself Don, but since it was my first time prepping boo I was afraid I'd pull up a bunch of splinters. I can see now how easy it is to get a bad splinter in the backing even though you think you did everything right. When I was sanding the edges after I cut out the rough profile the splinters just started climbing off the edges everywhere. That kinda freaked me out a little bit so I cleaned them off with some sand paper before glue up.

Do you rasp the edges round later on before tillering? When you have the profile all prettied up? I doubt that you would leave them square.
Any thoughts, advice, or tips on that would be much appreciated. [/b]

semo, yes i do round the edges of the boo just a little bit. i don't go nuts. about the radius of a pea (i saw or read it explained that way once or twice). you can keep the boo from splintering by pulling the rasp from back to belly side on the boo. that way your pulling the fibers down with the rasp as opposed to running the rasp from belly to back and pulling all the fibers up. don't use a coarse rasp for rounding the boos edge. just use a file that you would use for sharpening your broadheads. all you want to do is knock the corner down at this point. the most important thing to remember is draw the file or rasp from back to belly. pulling it is easier than pushing it. don

[Roy from Pa]

Good advice Don. I also rasp from the back of the bow towards the belly. But not untill the boo is glued on the wood core, and the bow is cut out to the shape of the bow/boo. I run my back facets about 1/4 inch down into the wood core, and taper them to less as I get to the limb tips.

[SEMO_HUNTER]

Don- That's how I do all my Osage too, from back to belly. Thanks for the tips.

Roybert- Thank you my friend, I've already sent you an email with questions attached. Thanks in advance for the help.

Lee- I already gave Roybert's # to my 90yr. old grandmother, she said she was looking for a young man to escort her to Bingo and VFW meetin's.  

[SEMO_HUNTER]

Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Good advice Don. I also rasp from the back of the bow towards the belly. But not untill the boo is glued on the wood core, and the bow is cut out to the shape of the bow/boo. I run my back facets about 1/4 inch down into the wood core, and taper them to less as I get to the limb tips.

Roy, you wouldn't happen to have any close ups of the limbs that you could post here would ya?
Something that shows what your profile edges look like maybe? I know how I like to work the edges of my Osage, but never worked with a backing of any kind before. I guess it's pretty much the same from what I've read so far?

[don s]

Originally posted by Roy from Pa:
Good advice Don. I also rasp from the back of the bow towards the belly. But not untill the boo is glued on the wood core, and the bow is cut out to the shape of the bow/boo. I run my back facets about 1/4 inch down into the wood core, and taper them to less as I get to the limb tips.

roy, thats what i'm refering to also. at this point my boo is glued up and the tillering will begin. i round my boo edges before i tiller. don

[beetlebailey1977]

Horseapple I fully agree with you.  I may myself just try to overload myself with written and spoken knowledge then I put it all to the actual test and learn.  It sure helps a lot more than figuring it all out on your lonesome.

[don s]

semo, heres some pics of the edges of a bbo. don

[don s]

a few more. hope it helps. don