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Offline Boswell

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2012 Bow Trade Changes
« on: August 18, 2011, 11:18:00 PM »
I participated in the 2010 bow trade but sat out this season, but watched the thread closely. My question to you guys who have been in it and to those who have watched. What "rules" would you instate or changes would you do to the trade.

I would change that they can not ship bows early, I would say in ONLY the last week can bows be shipped. This way everybody could watch every bow get made and not know which will show up at there door.

This would also help with the rule that Kelly has already made, with new bowyers and shipping their bows. This would allow Kelly to see who all has made their bow and who hasn't, and he could possible even flex that date depending on the number of complete bows or lack there of.

Whats your thoughts,

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2011, 01:25:00 AM »
This is Stiks show, any rules give to him. He is very open to knew Ideals, but I know he does not want to complicate it with rules. But a thread like this might make it easier to brainstorm on them.

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2011, 01:31:00 AM »
I like the idea of not shipping till a certain date.  That would definitely add to the suspense.  :)

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2011, 06:35:00 AM »
I was going to get in the next trade.... I noticed you stated something about new bowyer rules.  Can some point me in the direction of were the rules are listed or inform the people who do not know the rules what they are?  

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2011, 08:12:00 AM »
Jerrod,
there are few rules but and they will get posted on the sign up tread about DEC it really depends on when stiks decides to do it. Here is what it looked liked for this year.

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=004806#000000

Hope this helps

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2011, 08:18:00 AM »
Thanks Kelly....  Sure helps alot,  cant wait till next trade

Thanks agian, and be safe over there.....

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2011, 09:09:00 AM »
I'd like to get in on the trade for 2012.  Could someone let me know when the sign up begins?

I'm new to TG but trying to get more regular.  Maybe after elk season I can get started on my trade bow!  Already have an idea or two I've been wanting to try.

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 11:40:00 AM »
KC, the new bow trade probably won't start until after the new year, after hunting season is over.
If you decide to join maybe you should wait until a recipient has been chosen for you before you decide what to do. That way you can make the bow just for your recipient.
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Offline Cuban Missile

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 11:54:00 AM »
KC, I agree with Pat.  You want to wait a little so you can at least know what weight and draw your shooting for.
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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2011, 01:50:00 PM »
Boswell, you and AKmud have a good point. A shipping date would add suspense to the trade. Speculating on which bow was going to who was almost as exciting as receiving the bow.

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2011, 02:53:00 PM »
I'm with the guys that think a shipping date is a good idea.  Only bad thing about that is that the pics would really be flying on the swap thread for about a week.  Maybe overload for guys with dial-up internet but sounds very interesting.

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2011, 03:55:00 PM »
i agree with the idas on shippin the most all at once but like iv said befor  it d be wise to start earlier for some of the guys who work as many hrs as i do  sticks commeted the same idea  another idea i see some have complained that abegiiner s bow isnt fair trade to a seasond vetern  i had a thouth why not list in areas of experince  ie   say beginner to beginner  seasond pro to seasond pro  again guys just a thought  id relley just like to see a extras few months tacked to the whole thing just my 2 cents cant wait for th next trade   brock
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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2011, 12:46:00 AM »
Brock, its already been 8 months - this thing started in late December 2010, any longer and it would be the 2013 bow trade!

I like the idea of having two categories of participant - one for experienced and one for those starting out. How about 10 hunting weight bows completed as a line between?

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 09:46:00 AM »
shaun what im sayin i understnad what u mean but i mean like startin in  feburay and havin say a oct delivry date  my reason is jobs like u n me have were workin our tail off in the spring and fall usally know what i mean? and those catorys i fully aree with say a 10 bows group and the beginners group and another for guys 50 + brock
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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2011, 01:56:00 PM »
We already do a split between wood and glass bows. Some guys or gals just won't shoot one or the other.

 As far as beginner to experienced split, it would put alot of work on me and Kelly. I do take some preferences into consideration when it comes to drawing names so anyone with concerns can contact me through pm at sign up time.

 I do try try and keep any rules to a minimum but they are necessary to keep things in order.

 The one and only thing I try to prevent is someone not shipping a bow to their recipient and as few being late as possible. I was late shipping this year but they say if you ain't breaking you making. Matter of fact I talked to my recipient on the phone about some building issues I have been having and ended up shipping a bow that I didn't build. He's happy and I didn't want to keep him waiting any longer so I did what I had to.

 I have had some great suggestions on a few changes and am open any and all suggestions, but in reality we know everyone won't be happy all the time. There will be one major change that was suggested to me through a PM when the new sign ups start and it will be to prevent any one from getting a bow that will not return a bow.

 Any suggestions post'em here.

 Stiks.

 P.S Thanks for posting this thread Boswell
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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2011, 02:11:00 PM »
I don't like the idea of seperating the newbies from the seasoned bowyers. One of the main purposes of these trades,IMO, is to give the newbies the encouragement to join in and the opportunity to build a bow for someone else. That alone will give them the encouragement and drive to build a bow. I've been building wood bows for over 25 years and have no problem sending one of my bow to anyone and have no problem recieving a bow from anybody, newbie or seasoned bowyer!
  Who will determine who qualifies to be a seasoned bowyer and who is a newbie anyway. Personally I am tired of all the segregation we already have in our normal lives as it is. I will have to opt out if that is one of the considerations with this trade.
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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2011, 03:21:00 PM »
I tend to agree with Pat. Imagine how excited a new bowyer would be (or any of us for that matter) to recieve a bow from say...PatB.! If we take the new bowyers out of that possibility it would be less fun for me anyway.

Alot of what this swap is about is to encourage and help other bowyers, not just getting a bow. Heck, if it was just about having a bow, we could make it ourselves! You could say some day, "This is one of Fish's first bows!", (to pull a name out of the air), "and look where he is now!".

I like the idea of having a shipping date set that sends them all out basicly at the same time though. Even though I've been one who has been late both times, I think that will change with the next swap.

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2011, 03:33:00 PM »
There will be one major change that was suggested to me through a PM when the new sign ups start and it will be to prevent any one from getting a bow that will not return a bow.

I agree stiks. And I agree with Pat also. This trade is about fun and making bows for others.

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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2011, 04:47:00 PM »
Just think of the asset it is for the younger bowyers, one to send a bow to a seasoned bowyer. Who knows what they are looking at. The feed back they can give to help make them better. Also the new bowyer who receives a bow from a seasoned bowyer. They get to see what right looks like.

I remember this topic comming up when the stiks did this the first year and I think that, that swap and this one proves it would be really hard to turn away any of the bows sent. I only hope I can produce a bow half the quality of any of the bows I have seen. I have not shot any of them but I bet most shoot well.

I hope that all return next year, I will be there helping stiks if he lets me. Plus I will get to try my hand at building a bow. Hickory or osage I think I have been runing some ideals thru my head.
I cant wait for OCT to get here I will be home then. Then the next mile stone will be the start of the sign up of the next swap.  :)
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Re: 2012 Bow Trade Changes
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2011, 04:55:00 PM »
Kelly, we'll all celebrate when you get home!!!
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