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Offline x1whereswaldo1x

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need some help ...and a few strings....
« on: December 01, 2011, 08:04:00 PM »
new to the bow....need some help finding a string or really jsut a few made ....anyone want to help me?

got this bow from a buddy and it needed a string ...looked around the local archrey shop n the guy there told me this would be a good place to start.......

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contacted them threw email ....and they basically told me that they wont make me one for it.....

help me i want to shoot this beast again ....

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 09:57:00 AM »
pls help me out guys....!!!

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 10:39:00 AM »
Measure the bow tip to tip, subtract 3" and buy a B50 string of that length at 3 Rivers Archery.

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 10:58:00 AM »
will look into that .......the guy at the shop said ill need one with a long loop....or somehting..... said it was a horse bow or something like that ......sry im dumb ....will that affect what i buy ?

ty for ya post.....i really cant wait to shoot this...

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 11:39:00 AM »
Yes, the way the ends are on those bows will affect what you buy. 3Rivers probably won't be able to help you.
You could probably buy a replacement string from the bow's maker but without knowing who that is it's difficult to know where to point you.
Give Chad a call at   Champion Custom Bowstrings   and he'll be able to walk you through the information he needs to make a string for you.

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 11:49:00 AM »
sweet thank you .........ill be giving him a ring on monday....wooooohoooooo.......

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 03:52:00 PM »
being a horse bow the top siyah will be longer than the bottom one( this was to facilitate easier crossing of the neck and withers to make off side shots- so your loops will be two different lengths- i can take some measurements off my grozer hunnish bow for you this evening and post it.- there might be some similarity
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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 10:56:00 PM »
well heck yea.....thanks again guys......any help i can get ill take ......any more info i can get will surly help.......thanks again.......

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2011, 11:31:00 PM »
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Originally posted by fujimo:
being a horse bow the top siyah will be longer than the bottom one( this was to facilitate easier crossing of the neck and withers to make off side shots- so your loops will be two different lengths- i can take some measurements off my grozer hunnish bow for you this evening and post it.- there might be some similarity
wayne
I suspect this may vary by bow model and design.
I just measured my Grozer and the bow is completely symetrical. Both loops on the factory string are also the same size.

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 11:45:00 PM »
INTERESTING......woot im so glad that im finally getting some help and info on this bow.....like i said the people who made it jsut hung me out to dry over email .....im going to order at least 3 strings  when i get the chace....calling the string maker monday.... :)

ill let everyone know as soon as i can shoot this thing...

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2011, 12:12:00 AM »
If you get a flemish twist string with a loop on one end you could just us a bowers knot on the other. I would start long and then you could just shorten it until you get the right length that way.

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2011, 12:28:00 AM »
KellyG has a great idea.
With a regular recurve or longbow a stringmaker can tell you how to measure the bow so he can make the string the right length.
If the complex curves on a horsebow makes that difficult then it would be easy to put a one-eye string on as Kellyg mentions, measure it, and then you'll have the right length for a two-eyed string.
If the stringmaker you speak with is unsure of the length, PM me and I'll send you a one-eye Flemish string that you can use to determine the right length.
This is the same procedure I use when making a wood bow. I just keep shortening the tiller string until the bow is finished and at full brace, then it's an easy measurement to determine how long to make the final string.

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 12:48:00 AM »
u guys are awesome ........thanks so much .....i know nothing about measuring a bow ....sry im new n dumb.....but i get the drift so far.....wouldnt know where to start yet  into making a string ...but i do have a amateur bow maker thats a friend of mine....hes been trying to hep but is wiry of making a string for this bow since he has never dealt with one .....

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 12:53:00 AM »
i may be wrong here kelly- but it seems the way these siyahs are built- you need the larger loop to slige down either side of it, with just a bowyers knot the string would slip of one side or the other.
 and yes grey- there are a bunch of different models- on grozers site there seem to be dozens of them- it was primarily( and i might very well stand to be corrected on this one) the huns who built the bows with different lenth siyahs, for the ease of shooting astride- that obviously doesnt mean that you cant shoot with other bows astride- just the history- but in all honesty i honestly cant see what difference a couple a inches would make on already crazy short bows anyway!!??
say how do you like your Grozer
mine is really superfast, and really accurate- consistant.
just hardly use it 'cos i didnt build it i geuss- just stubborn- an like to shoot my own.
the length of the eyes is also important- so that at brace height, where the string leaves contact with the siyah, is where you want the loop to be ending- too long and i would worry about it slipping off the back of the nock- too short and the string will still torque to one side or the other.
 i will get some pics and measurements in the morning- and if the bows dimensions are close, i can build you a string- and lets see how it works- what is the poundage on the bow

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 08:53:00 AM »
Will you post a side profile of your bow. To me it look like a Molle or Holmegaard type bow. If so a normal bow string will work. If it in fact is a horse b
ow a string with an elongated string would be in order.
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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2011, 10:58:00 AM »
if i look at the shadows on the pic , i can see the exaggerated recurved tips and  what looks like a deflexed limb section- but a side profile pic will be the answer. my horse bow is reflexed over the entire bow from the handle out- with the siyahs even more reflexed.
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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2011, 11:15:00 AM »
Shaped like a Mollegabet but you can tell that the levers are reflexed pretty good.
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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2011, 12:22:00 PM »
The tips don't look like thick, narrow siyahs like is typical on an Asiatic horn bow but more like reflexed Molle tips. If the nocks are cut like a regular bow a regular string should work. If set up like a horn bow siyah you will need a different string loop set up.
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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2011, 04:30:00 PM »
took some more pix......ill get them posted up tonight........

im saying its 28 in at 41 lbs....

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Re: need some help ...and a few strings....
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2011, 04:40:00 PM »
took some more pix......ill get them posted up tonight........

im saying its 28 in at 41 lbs....
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