Author Topic: Updated! Rollercoaster stave: a ride-a-long (take 2). . DONE!! Finished pics:)  (Read 1388 times)

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Looking good!! Luv hackberry...
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thanks Coaster! I'm liking it a lot myself, seems very elastic.  

Well, i workd the tiller a little more this morning and went ahead and steamed the handle and put'r on the form to get that string aligned.  I'll give it a couple days to rest, and in the meantime i'll go on and glue on the backing and clean up the sides a little, then back to the tiller on Thursday!
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After letting her rest for a day from steaming, i went on and roughed out the handle area yesterday and then tillered some more this morning.  Here's where she now stands. Low brace reveals a lot of stiffness still in that right limb, which i'll work on before pulling any further:

 

Brace:
 

And that blasted handle area moved back after i roughed out!!   :banghead:    

 

Gonna gently heat gun the handle area this time either this afternoon or in the morning before i tiller any more.

Since i'm not tempering, will 24hrs be enough time after re-aligning?

Thanks for any input   :)
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I'm no expert on heating but I believe you need to leave it a couple of days atleast to rehydrate to normal RH before trying to bend it again. Looking real good. I'm starting on staves soon, so watching this one closely.
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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It shouldnt move back. How long sis you steam her for? I steam handle for no less than an hour.

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Right at an hour, it was very pliable.  It may not have moved back that much on second look. i guess because i hadn't roughed out the handle yet, it LOOKED more aligned than it actually was (wasn't thru the center, but i was afraid to bend that far, being my first).  i read somewhere recently about corrections undoing themselves some after wood removal, and figured that had happened.  Whatever it is, ima hafta correct more before i tiller the rest of the way out.  

I may go ahead and steam instead of heat gun, don't have time to sit for an hour while it heats up!  Either way, I plan on continuing tiller again in the wee hours of the morning Friday unless that's too soon.  This will be the 4th steaming session in about a week and 1/2.

Thanks!
Kevin

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Well, I rassled her and heated her and rassled her some more. it took some doing, but finally got'r aligned through the handle.  She resisted the whole way but i think she'll keep her new position:

 

now, what to do while i wait on rehydration?  Maybe NOW i'll go ahead and glue the backing on while she recovers.
Kevin

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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Diggy! If you try to heat an area twice and it wont stick. Try moving to another spot that will still move the tip or handle where you want it.

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Unless you sealed the area with shellac you need to let id dry back out for at least a few days, a week is better. If you did seal it with shellac first let it rest a day or two.
  For me a heat gun is way quicker to heat up the wood than steam.
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yeah, i sat there staring for about 20 minutes this morning tryna figure out just that.  Finally settled on adding a spacer between the limbs and my form so i could bend it more than otherwise, then heated up about 6inches further up both limbs to get that entire middle to give a little.  Whew!  it was a little unnerving, had to clamp that handle about 2" over in order to get it to hold 1/2"! What a lesson!  Can't wait to get back to tillering!
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Looking good Kevin.
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Pat: Don't have any shellac, i used crisco.  Guess that means i WILL be glueing on the backing and some other detail work over the next few days then.  Can't just sit and do nothing;)

Stiks: Thank you sir, couldn't have gotten this far without all the folks here!
Kevin

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well it is looking good, and heck if that string does not move center of the handle you will have  center of the arrow rest bow.

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Kelly, don't think for a second that i didn't have that thought!!     :laughing:
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Well, not a good way to start the day.  I was tillering away, and did a couple draws in the mirror (no further than i have been) and  . . . POP!!  Hit myself in the face when she snapped in two.  No tick, no warning, just POW.  Well, here are the pics, never seen one break like this:

 

 

 

Any input y'all have as to diagnosis would be greatly appreciated.  This is in the area where i knew some rings were violated, hence the backing (which didn't hold together so well??).  

Stiks, if you see this, guess our hearing works about the same;)

Bummer   :confused:
Kevin

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Bummer man. Thats sucks, that what i think. Sorry for your loss.
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Well that is downright disappointing. Was hoping that one would work for you. Sorry but I don't have a clue why it would break like that, though I'm sure someone will have a good idea.
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Too dry!
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57" stave...so that means the bow was between 55-56 in ntn. How far did you draw it when it popped? Jawge

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I see to that there were ring violations which are never good. Oh well. Get another stave. May be longer. If you ain't breakin' you ain't makin'! Jawge

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