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Round belly or flat
« on: March 01, 2012, 09:19:00 AM »
Which belly do you guys prefer on a Osage stave round or flat?
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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 09:46:00 AM »
Flat with slighty rounded shoulders.

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 10:35:00 AM »
Which belly do I PREFER?

mild radius.
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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 12:14:00 PM »
I like a slightly radiused belly for osage too.
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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2012, 06:43:00 AM »
I prefer fully radiused... on any wooden bow. Whether that radius leans more toward rounded or more toward elliptical depends on the width and thickness of the bow, which is determined by the wood species' properties.

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2012, 08:26:00 AM »
i have always made flat. but only because all the reading i have done says that flat is better.
greater stress distibution, greater longevity for the bow etc.
by radiusing the belly, is there a reduction in the limb mass?- surely not!- am i wrong here, is there something i am not seeing- help!!!
 and is the radius-ing making a difference to performance either way.
or is this purely an aesthetic value-which is cool too!

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2012, 08:56:00 AM »
I'm making an Osage stave bow now with a round belly, put Halibut shins on Monday and hope to start tilling this coming Monday. It was just floor tillered when I put the skins on.
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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2012, 09:16:00 AM »
Cool Ranger 3...   pics man, pics????

When you're a loose cannon with a rasp like me radius is easier and aesthetically more pleasing to me. I'm not at the level necessary to comment on performance? I've only made one flat bellied bow...
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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2012, 09:33:00 AM »
I alway have a radiused belly on osage selfbows. how much radius is determined by bow dimensions and by how much crown is on the back. higher crown = flatter belly and vice versa.

I prefer a flat belly on bamboo backed osage bows, however.
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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2012, 09:56:00 AM »
What happens when you add 3-4 layers of sinew? Do you guys maintain a radiused belly or flatten it out?

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2012, 10:42:00 AM »
Keep a radiused belly to start with Pearly. As the sinew dries it'll cup a flat belly. You can flatten the belly out later if that's what you decide. Personally, I like a very slight radius on all bows for the simple fact that any stress is centralized down the middle of the limb which helps prevent limb twisting IMO.

With 3-4 layers I believe I would set the bows weight at the temps you expect to use it then most in. The more layers the more seasonal a bow you'll have.

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2012, 10:51:00 AM »
I find I have much more control tillering Osage with a slightly radiused belly.I really learned alot of information from the Dean Torges book.On my hickory I always go with a flat belly.I find that my belt sander is the easiest way for me to achieve this.Seems I always had compression issues with radiused bellies on hickory. glen

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2012, 10:57:00 AM »
I do a partial radius I guess you could call it. I facet the belly edges in about 1/4 inch then round off the edges on the belly.

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2012, 11:05:00 AM »
I've always went with flat and rounded all sharp edges because a rounded corner is stronger than a sharp corner.
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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 03:52:00 PM »
So is putting a radius on a Hickory belly a bad idea?  I'm doing my first Hickory selfbow and was putting a radius in the belly but I can still make it flat if I need to.

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2012, 04:49:00 PM »
Hickory tends to fret on a radiused belly if it is even slightly overstrained. Due to its high tension strength a Crowned or trapped back and flat belly works best on hickory.

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2012, 05:08:00 PM »
WhatOkie 64 says

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2012, 06:13:00 AM »
Pearl Drums, I fully radius my sinewed bows as well. I don't see why sinew would even be a concern? I radius the bellies of all of em, whether they're selfbows, backed with sinew, rawhide, bamboo, other wood backing pieces, straight bows, d/r, recurves, etc.

The only time I consider a flatter belly, is when the back has a very high crown, like on a bow made with a very small diameter tree, sucker, or limb. Even then, it's flattER, but not flat.

Hickory, elm, ash, cherry, etc... fully radiused. Some more round, some more elliptical, depending on the limb width.  

Treat the wood well, design em appropriately, tiller em well, then they should be neither overstrained or overbuilt... whether they're flat or radiused.

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Re: Round belly or flat
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2012, 02:26:00 PM »
I'm liking flatter and flatter all the time.  I get much less string follow with a flatter belly.
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