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Offline Colorado Joe

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Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« on: May 21, 2012, 05:55:00 PM »
After half a year I am finally working on my Hickory backed ipe longbow,
The first question I have is what order should I go in roughing to tiller?
Should I cut the shelf, handle and nocks in before moving on to tillering?
The other question I have is When building the shelf I have noticed a lot of bows with a rounded shelf what is the approx diameter I should round to and where on the shelf should the peak be?

the bow is currently 70" by 1 1/4 and my handle is currently 2 1/4
Approximate

One more
What should my limb taper be to get close to 40lbs?
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2012, 06:29:00 PM »
I always do the tiller before the grip and shelf. If i string up the bow for the first time the chances are that the limbs won't bend exactly the same way. If the lower limb is weaker I just flip the bow around and the tiller is where I want it. Then I do the grip and shelf and the tips are last.

The radius of the shelf is not so important. The one thing that counts is that the arrow touches the shelf and arrow window at exactly the same spot. And this point should be vertically above the pressure point of the grip.

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2012, 08:47:00 PM »
So should I rough out the string nocks so I can put on a tiller string?
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Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2012, 11:26:00 PM »
I leave the handle and shelf 'til last too. Another advantage of doing it this way is if your string doesn't line up perfectly, you can place the handle to match it. I leave my tips wide until the end for the same reason.
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2012, 11:39:00 PM »
Are the limbs bending at all? I don't cut string nocks If I can't get it floor tillered first. Got any pics so we can see where you are at?
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Offline Colorado Joe

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 11:26:00 AM »
I don't have much bend as of yet I still have to take off some more. . I'll get some pics up shortly.
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Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 11:50:00 AM »
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70" ntn
40#
Samick Sage
40#
Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 11:50:00 AM »
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Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 11:51:00 AM »
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70" ntn
40#
Samick Sage
40#
Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 12:42:00 PM »
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Samick Sage
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Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
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Offline Colorado Joe

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 02:12:00 PM »
Ok do how much bend am I currently looking for while I am floor tillering.
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Hickory backed Ipe with a Zebrawood accent.
70" ntn
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Samick Sage
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Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 03:16:00 PM »
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Offline Colorado Joe

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 04:43:00 PM »
The core is about 3/4".
I do have about a four inch pull on the limbs.
She's starting to look like a bow. Unfortunately I don't have a short string for it yet.
I'll cut the fades and rough out the handle and shelf  this evening.
Any tips tricks or ideas are more than helpful.
Thanks
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Hickory backed Ipe with a Zebrawood accent.
70" ntn
40#
Samick Sage
40#
Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
"If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith."
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 07:06:00 PM »
Dang bows on the sidelines for a few days. Just shot a nail through two fingers. Something I do not recommend.
One thing I do recomend is testing your nail gun on a solid object before using it. The one I was using double fired and got me good.
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Hickory backed Ipe with a Zebrawood accent.
70" ntn
40#
Samick Sage
40#
Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
"If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith."
-- Albert Einstein

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 08:08:00 PM »
Ouch! I'm gonna do my best to follow your recommendation on that one.
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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 09:56:00 AM »
I would blend the fades into the limb before bending your bow too much.
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Offline Colorado Joe

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2012, 01:11:00 PM »
That's what I thought. I'm still playing with handle shape pattern. Any suggestions?
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Hickory backed Ipe with a Zebrawood accent.
70" ntn
40#
Samick Sage
40#
Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
"If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith."
-- Albert Einstein

Offline Colorado Joe

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2012, 09:10:00 PM »

 

Handles are rough cut. Time to get back to filing.
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Hickory backed Ipe with a Zebrawood accent.
70" ntn
40#
Samick Sage
40#
Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
"If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith."
-- Albert Einstein

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #18 on: May 24, 2012, 11:28:00 PM »

 

Knocks and handle are getting closer.
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Hickory backed Ipe with a Zebrawood accent.
70" ntn
40#
Samick Sage
40#
Housel Osage stick (High country Elk stopper)
48"
55#
"If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith."
-- Albert Einstein

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Re: Zebra wood fades popping on during tillering draw.
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2012, 08:46:00 AM »
Holy cutaway batman!!

I made a bamboo backed hickory bow, 62" 65# @ 28" and it had a cutout about like that, maybe not quite past center, but to center.

I could should arrows fletched with plastic vanes out of it cleanly. Only found out cause the bow ot finished before the arrows and I had some cheapo carbons lying around.

Good luck. and btw the plastic vanes did fly awesome. Weird shooting a wooden bow without the hiss of feathers throuh the air
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