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Offline rmorris

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Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« on: August 21, 2012, 09:31:00 PM »
I keep tossing around the idea of making a Hill style bow, but I think it may be a little tougher than I am thinking. I was thinking about making the form as flat as I can (not reflex or deflex).

When this bow comes out I would like to be able to look down the back of the bow and see no curves or anything strange.

I have never checked this because every bow form I make has some curve to it, but when you use the air hose method does the pressure cause the form to bend or flex? If so would this show up in the profile in the back of the bow?

I was thinking about making top of the form much thinner 3-4" at the thinnest point to hopefully do the flexing opposed to the part of the form where the bow mates.

Next, what is the best way to get a 72" piece of LVL perfectly flat? My table saw only has about a 3' deck/ fence so I dont think the table saw is the answer, but I think I may use it to do the initial cut and and then use the planer along with some rollers to make the final form surface....

Please let me know how you do it and what you think.
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2012, 09:33:00 PM »
A straightedge, laser , and router to get the straight edge?
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2012, 09:35:00 PM »
Fast and wise you are kenny... you deserve a break
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2012, 10:09:00 PM »
Fast and wise you are kenny... you deserve a break

Oh God Help Me. I just fell off my chair and can't reach my beer for laffen my a$$ off:)

Howard Hill prolly just rolled over and bumped his head on his casket roof with the mention of all dat high tech stuff just to make a hill bow...  :laughing:  

Make a real bow Ralph, use a string and a lead pencil, ok and maybe a straight edge and a square:)
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2012, 10:11:00 PM »
Somebody help that geezer , or at least hand him his beer down there!!  :laughing:  

Thank you, Mr Ralph.
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2012, 10:23:00 PM »
Ralph, if you have access to a shop with a big jointer, that would do the trick in a couple of minutes. Most big machines have 7' or longer tables and would get your beam dead flat.
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2012, 10:37:00 PM »
David, while a great idea I have no access... After what Kenny said I believe I have a piece of 8' corrian that has a factory edge on one side  :) .

I am still concerned about the flex of the form transferring to the bow... and I may be a little concerned about Roy...
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2012, 10:51:00 PM »
Rmorris the form i have for HH type bows doesnt seem to be affected at all by pressure from the air hose, but being straight laid, and as I grind my tapers to the centerline of each lam meaning they meet the riser as a taper to flat surface, I always get about 1/4- 1/2'' string follow on them.This doesnt seem to affect performance at all.
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2013, 12:09:00 AM »
Alright, so I finally finished up hill bow #2 and3
#2 is a cocobolo riser with coco veneers it is 64" and 23# @23"

#3 is mine and is cocobolo riser with pau rosa veneers, it is 68" and is 57# @ 30"

 
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All I need to do now is get a leather grip on my bow and let some arrows fly.
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2013, 02:24:00 AM »
Looking good Ralph.
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 02:43:00 AM »
Sweet as! Man those veneers are crazy!
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 12:38:00 PM »
Nice bows, Ralph! How do they shoot?
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2013, 01:06:00 PM »
A perfectly flat form will not yield a perfectly stright bow.  Once you string it up you will notice a bit of string follow that will remain throughout the life of the bow.  Makes for a sweet shooting bow.
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2013, 02:20:00 PM »
Stan , the 23# bow shoots like a dream! And I have not got the chance to fling many arrows out of the big boy. I am going to try to finish up that bow today and give ya an update .

Mike, I am getting about 5/8" of backset on the 68" bows but I love how they shoot. I think they look pretty cool unstrung also.

If my new 57#er shoots anything like the first one I made(35#) it is going to be my new hunting bow.
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2013, 04:39:00 PM »
Oooooo Baby!!  Now those are what I call longbows!! Ya done real well, Ralph.     :bigsmyl:
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2013, 05:04:00 PM »
Very nice!  :thumbsup:  
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2013, 06:31:00 PM »
Dave , thanks.

John, I was thinking if you got my name this year I would be the lucky guy
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2013, 07:06:00 PM »
Nice work Ralph, those are some beauties!  
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2013, 07:36:00 PM »
Nice work Ralph!
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Re: Hill Style Bow ( made some with pictures)
« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2013, 07:46:00 PM »
Ralph, the Hills look great, but it was too much for your dog, he passed out!

Nice job bro!!
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