Thanks,I didn't realize hackberry needed to be that long. I'm shooting for 45 to 50 @ 28". I am trying to keep my hickory bows as dry as possible. I kind of lean toward 62" to 64" bows for some reason but will try to go 66" and see how it goes. I was thinking of a hackberry recurve but am not sure if that is fesible. Thanks for the help, Don