No epitaph.....not yet *^)

[jacobsladder]

George...WildmanSC has it.... im talking about  the arrows being bent while pulling from targets...My point is that aluminum are straighter and more precise from the factory...but after shooting them awhile they will not be any straighter than the carbons....I also said that alumiums make a good arrow... but carbons are a superior arrow...

[buckeye_hunter]

George,

I decided to keep the butterscotch.  Just ordered some 1916's from Badger Arrow.  Good price and he was quick to answer my questions via e-mail.

-Charlie

[hawksnest]

I agree George, I've been shooting aluminums since 1961, and still do.  My other arrow choice is wood, both POC & Sitka spruce. I also stump shoot with aluminum.  I never could get a carbon to fly correct from my 26" draw, and "girley weight" bows)   :D    :D  Bill G.

[David Mitchell]

Yep, Wildman, I agree.  It is amazing to see how much bend some guys put in arrows when they pull them out of a target--I've even cautioned some guys who were pulling my arrows when I saw a big bend in the shaft!

[George D. Stout]

hawksnest....I kinda' like my woods as well.  I was shooting some today:


 

[The Whittler]

I have been pulling arrows out of targets and have never bent and arrow.

What's so hard about it, you walk up to the target and grab the arrow up aganist the target. Give it a twist (clock wise) and pull, very easy.

Alan

[jacobsladder]

nice pic george!!! love the bow too!

[whitebuffalo]

I'm shooting wood primarily now but I love aluminum arrows,, as far as souless,, I don't know about that,, My soul comes from God and he gave it to me and the tools in my hand are an extension of that soul. So wether its wood, aluminum, carbon, its deadly in my hands. I always found aluminum to be very effective killing arrows,, carbons were great out of my wheely bow but I prefer aluminum or wood while hunting with the stick. I have found aluminums to be more durable as far as direct hits. Glance shots go to carbons,, I love how easy aluminums are to set up,,and the weight you get right off the bat is hard to beat. Only wood and aluminum will give you weight with normal arrow setups "without adding a bunch of weight or tubes". They are far from dead and probably will never die off,, Agreed George,,aluminums are an awsome arrow,,J

[jacobsladder]

sorry Jay...aluminums have one foot in the grave...lol. the ce150 is at 10 grains per inch...once they come out with a wider range of spines.....i have a feeling aluminums will be a thing of the past....is that a good thing..no! just looks like its heading in that direction.

[whitebuffalo]

I guess I better start buying up my favorite shafts then  

[Tim Fishell]

I am still a young kid compared to a lot of folks on this site but I have shot stickbows for my whole life.  I picked up a few carbons last year to see what the hype was all about and to tell you the truth I am still wondering.  I like woodies!!  There is just something special to me about a stick bow and a wood arrow, they just seem to fit!!  That being said woodies do take a severe beating while out stumping or at 3D ranges (at least for me they do).  So because of this I like Aluminum for this type of shooting.  But to be 100% honest I will say that in the last year I have broken or destroyed more of the carbons that I had bought than Aluminum.  So as for me and the durability issue I am sticking with Aluminum for a number of my own reasons.

All arrows have there place in the sport we all love but it will be Wood and Aluminum that will have that spot in my quiver!!

Tim

[jacobsladder]

Tim.....yep ! cant beat those woodies! especially those fire flys...sweet! but aluminum more durable than carbon??? not on any 3d course or thru any deer ive taken....and thats thru a bunch of 3d leagues and deer back in the wheelie days..

[LeeNY]

George, All I can say is thank god for baby boomers and beer cans.

Love my Aluminums 2020,2018,and 2016s. I've tried the new GG's in the 500 series and they're pretty good too. I've got to play with them a little more.

[Terry Green]

I disagree that aluminums are superior to carbons...and a lot of statements made are just not true....but do sound like they are made on emotion instead of facts.

I don't have time to address them all...but I will this.

I shot aluminums for 15 years, with Zwickey Delta four blades and a long adapter...total weight = 500 grains.  

I now shoot UNWEIGHTED carbons with the same Zwickey and long adapter, and they weight 530 grains....so not only are all carbons NOT light, some are heavier than aluminums.

Nah, no need to bury aluminums,.....just don't ask me to use em....or try to make me believe they are more durable when I know they are not.  No, they aren't quieter either.  

BTW, I still shoot wood as well.

[Tim Fishell]

I agree with you Terry!!  It is my own Personal reasons and from my own Personal experiences that I choose to shoot aluminum.  They may be false to what others have found but I am OK with that.

[Terry Green]

Yeah Tim...we are a passionate bunch, so emotion is common place, and OK.

[Lewis Brookshire III]

I agree with Terry, and I believe for the same reason.

Arrow Dynamics Trad's have pretty much changed the Finicky tuning carbon, the "Light" carbon and the only a couple sizes to choose from carbons. In fact AD Trads only come in two sizes but you can shoot them in 40-75 pound bows. They pretty much cover the spectrum.

[LeeNY]

I'm with Tim on this also. I shoot woodies and aluminums only because it's what I'm familiar with. I've played with carbon shafts, but nothing serious yet. Personally it's a hill I don't feel the need to climb yet!  

[Lewis Brookshire III]

I will say I have NO where near the expierence that alot of you guys have as I have only been shooting trad for 3 years. BUT I am fanatical tinkerer and have tried pretty much every arrow combo over and over just to have fun tinkering.

I think Alluminums are great....until they bend. Also I feel that Alluminums are louder on the shot, so are carbons if you compare them to wood but allums are louder to me. Woodies are the queitest and also the "Softest" upon release but are too inconsistent.

The Carbons are either Broke or straight, there is no bent. And i have personally never broke a carbon, lost a few yes, but never broken one. I have seen other guys break some but I havent.

BUT it all boils down to what WE as individuals like and are confident with. THAT is what counts, I am confident with my AD's and you might not. But hey thats human nature we are all different.

[jacobsladder]

Terry...thanks for jumping in...i thought i was going crazy there for a moment..... I think vermonster summed it up on another thread..... shoot what you are most confident with..... but at this point the "only" advantage to aluminum is a wider range of spines and easier tuning.....and that is slowly changing.