I took a red oak board and made a kids bow 45" ntn kept it the same width as factor at handle glued on a six inch piece and tapered from the handle to half inch tips and then backed it with burlap. Boy I sure hit this one on the nail with tiller! I haven't final shaped grip or nocks yet though. It does have a lot of string follow. Right now it pulls 33 pounds at 19 inches and I am shooting for 18 at 20 inches. I tell you what, I am scared to mess with it, because the tiller is awesome! I will try and get a pick up. What do you think I should do? Keep going or stop and keep it for her to grow into and start another? This is also only my second self bow that made it.