Opinions please from ACS-CX owners

[Steve O]

Holy smokes Elk Chaser, that is a nice herd of bows you've got there...

ttt for Peter

[Hornseeker]

Yok...just buy the bow and quite whining...it'll do the job!
Ernesto

[Herdbull]

Pete
I am friends with John Havard of A&H and have had the privilege of trying some of his bows including prototypes. I shoot the same arrows (718 gr 2219) out his bows at different weights 50 to 66 pounds at my long draw and the arrow flight is great. I have a 200 gr point out front which may soften the spine a bit, but his bows were very easy to get used to relative to the recurves I have been shooting. Don’t just let arrow speed be the deciding factor, shoot it a bit and see where they are hitting the target. It is much easier to go down in draw weight than work your way back up to where you are. If not, your son will eventually fit into the bow and as you already know , these bows have held their value pretty good.  Getting a peak at the future, I think this company will be around for a long time.

Mike

[peter c iacavazzi]

Thanks guys!! Great advice and input. I'm buying the bow. But I'm going to work hard at getting A&H to make me a set of limbs 65 lbs or heavier.

As I said earlier, I loved the ACS bow when I shot it. I was amazed at how smooth and quiet it was. Not to mention how light in the hand and gorgeous (kinda like that whole woman thing...)

I guess now my only real concern (fear) is that GURU may actually be shooting a "manlier" bow than me. I'll be damned if some lil' guy from "NY" is gonna pull more than me...

Pete

[Herdbull]

"You can never have too much.....gun!"

[peter c iacavazzi]

Mike,

Rumor has it your gonna look damn sexy in your new Sitka gear! I have to shoot a big heavy man bow...otherwise you and GURU and Denny will make too much fun of me!

[peter c iacavazzi]

Good news. I just spoke to the guys at A&H and they will make a heavier set of limbs if a guy really, really wants them! I spoke to John and he said they can probably make me a set that would weigh in at around 66-67 lbs at 28"

So, GURU...Whos the man now...

[vermonster13]

Now you just will need to get some rebar to make arrows from.

[John Nail]

I admire anyone who considers 59lbs "light"

[WildmanSC]

Originally posted by John Nail:
I admire anyone who considers 59lbs "light"

John,

I'm in full agreement with you.  My old shoulders are really liking my 46-48#@28" bows!  All I have to worry about my arrows penetrating are big IL deer!            

Bill

[JC]

Originally posted by peter c iacavazzi:
Good news. I just spoke to the guys at A&H and they will make a heavier set of limbs if a guy really, really wants them! I spoke to John and he said they can probably make me a set that would weigh in at around 66-67 lbs at 28"

So, GURU...Whos the man now...

It's a shame they told me "No" 3 different times during my order....guess I'm not as sweet on the phone as he is.    

Enjoy the bow Pete, it'll be a sledgehammer at that weight!

[peter c iacavazzi]

JC,

When I spoke to A&H they told me that just recently they have begun beefing up the limbs for guys that really desire heavier weights. John said he has had several guys looking to go for Buffalo and even a guy thinking about going for elephant. He strongly suggested that if I was to go heavier than about 62-64 lbs I should look into the 66" model ACS-CX. He said thier main concern is not making a set of 62" limbs at 65 @28" it was if a guy with a 30-31" draw picked up the bow and gave her a pull it would place too much stress on the limbs at that length.

However with that said I get the feeling that they would rather not make a heavier limb and John was very adamant about staying at 65 lbs or below. He really suggested that the performance of the bow even at 60lbs would be enough for any North American critter. He did seem like a likeable guy and willing to work with his customers if they really insisted. I would love an ACS that pulls 75-80 lbs but I think about 66-67 lbs is the best I'm gonna get...for now.

John also told me that they are catching up on the waiting list. All I know is that if I can get a 66-67lb ACS in my hand by Sept. the elk are gonna be in big trouble...

And oh yeah...I was extra sweet on the phone. I even mentioned Mike "herd bull" Mittens name of course all John did was laugh and say huh' that knucklehead!

Guys, by the way 59lbs is only light to me cuz for 25 years I've been pulling 75-90. Of course after sitting in a tree all day in a cold Nov. 59lbs would feel just about right!! Besides if I didn't pull such big bows, I wouldn't be Gurus hero...

I'll keep ya posted on how the bow performs. I'm really looking forward to seeing what she'll do.

[scriv]

I ordered mine 37#@28.  If I draw it to 31" will it grow?

[Herdbull]

Pete,
If the bow comes out close to 65@28 and you are drawing 30 ½ like you say, it should feel real good to you. By the way, John has a solid 30 ½ inch draw as well. The long power stroke will help with your heavy arrow speed issue relative to your >75# bows. It is good that you stay flexible and continue your weight training and stretching. But if you ever do start to slow down like us humans, you will appreciate this bow more. Ha! :>)  Mike

[peter c iacavazzi]

Mike,

I only draw 28" but somedays I feel like I can draw 30.5 of course at 5"9" I'd have to have long monkey arms to pull 30 plus inches. But than again on those cold, wet, snowy days drawing a 75 lb bow back 28" sure don't seem easy...

I have to stay strong so one day I can carry out 2 monster bucks on my back like some macho guy I happen to know...

[Guru]

Good for you bud....that thing is going to be awesome at that weight....and yes, you are, and always will be "the man" and my hero(biggie's too)......    

Geez I might have to get a new bow just to keep up with you next year    

[peter c iacavazzi]

Hmmm...Maybe I can compete in the longbow division at the "Muzzy" shoot. If I win, we can go head to head for all the marbles...

Everytime I look at your avatar picture, I am reminded of what a STUD you are!!!

Pete

[Shawn Leonard]

Pete, I don't know if anyone has mention this as I have not read thru all the posts, so here goes. It is now known that ya can shoot arrows withh a high FOC and get as good of penetration as other arrows without the high FOC but of the same weight. In other words you could shoot a 600 grain arrow out of that ACS with high FOC and it penetrate as well or better than a 700 grain arrow without it. At roughly 10gpp. with high FOC out of tha ACS, it will blow through any thing in North America> Shawn

[southpawshooter]

stud,    and lil' mikey's idol!

[peter c iacavazzi]

Shawn,

Very interesting advice. Thank you for that. I'm going to certainly play around with heavy FOC. I have been following all of Dr. Ashbys research and I'm definitely going to beef up my FOC. I was going to start with a 30" Beman 340 shaft with a 100 gr brass adapter and 150 gr heads.

When Guru was here in 06' he had over 250 gr on the tip of his arrow and they fly like darts. He even managed to kill a few critters with em...