Opinions please from ACS-CX owners

[Carbon Caster]

Peter,

You will probably need the 300 spine carbons to beef the FOC up much with that ACS.  They are cut PAST center a great deal and need a STIFF arrow.  That or you could build your side plate out to tune the bow to the arrow as well.  You ought to be able to kill a T-Rex with that bow.  I hope Mike Mitten is there to help you pack it out if you do shoot one.  I know Denny hunted them once.  I saw a picture of it, so it must be true.  LOL!!!

[Guru]

Yeah buddy, now you're talkin'!!  Second weekend in Aug., don't forget(well I won't let you forget!)

 Pete, My set up was an Easton carbon with reg. insert(12-15grs.), and either 100gr. steel adapters with 160 Snuffers or 125 steel adapters with 125 Wensel Woodsman and two little brass washers so they all weighed the same with about 280 grs. up front.

Been shooting high FOC Carbons going on 3 seasons now and I just love the way perform on game!

Give Tanner a hug and kiss for me bud    

[Terry Green]

Huh?  What's the problem?

They are making me an 80#er.

[Diamond Paul]

Pete, I certainly don't have your experience, but have you considered whether or not you will be able to get off the string cleanly on a bow that much lighter than what you are used to shooting?  My buddy is practicing with a very light bow right now, and says it takes all his focus to get a clean release and proper follow through.  Just food for thought. . . .

[Terry Green]

OK....I was joking    :D   Just tyring to get in on all the fun.  

[peter c iacavazzi]

Carbon Caster,

Thank you for that advice and I will certainly remember it when the bow arrives. As far as building out the plate? I shoot off of a rest. In 25 years of trad bow shooting/hunting I have never shot off the shelf. I prefer to shoot vanes and I personally feel the arrow gets better flight from a rest. I use a lil' flipper style rest placed as close to the shelf as possible. But I like the idea of a 300 shaft. Thanks!

Diamond Paul,

Yes, I have thought about relaese but when I shot my buddys lighter ACS (59lbs @ 28") I shot it fine. I'm actually working on a new shooting style thanks to my recent correpondance with Jay Kidwell so this year is kinda a whole new "revamping" year for me. After 25 years of shooting well, I'm trying to now go to the next level and shoot really well. Kinda like GURU!!

Terry,

When you're done with your 80lb'er can I please borrow her?? I promise I'll give her all the love, respect and tenderness "she" deserves...Hmmm...Theres that woman thing again...

Guru,

Now I remember how much FOC you had. In fact after watching you "Pole Ax" that antelope how could I ever forget!!! But you're right I'm gonna add even more up front. Hopefully then I can knock critters of thier feet just like you and Denny and the Sweet Biggie...

Thanks guys for all the input. The bow is gonna be fun and I'm eager to get her on track (and me too).

I think the elk ae gonna be in big trouble!!!

[foudarme]

Originally posted by peter c iacavazzi:
I have the chance to purchase an A&H ACS-CX from a friend. The bow is 62" and draws 59lbs @ 28". Here is my question: I normally shoot heavy recurves and longbows in the 75-90 lb range. I shoot heavy arrows 700 plus grains and hunt elk in at least 3 states per year. Can I expect to get sufficient arrow speeds and pentration from  such a light bow? I know that to most 59lbs is not a light bow, but to a guy who routinely shoots bows between 75-90 trust me 59 lbs is light. I shot the bow last week and I will say that with a 600 grain arrow the 59 lb ACS shot as fast as a 70 lb longbow that we chronographed it against. I'm intersted in hearing from other ACS owners as to your opinions regarding the ACS for elk.

Thanks, peter

peter

I hunt too with heavy bows between 80-90#...I have an A&H ACS, 64#@28...I chronoed she 3 days ago with a 900gr GT big game 100+ arrow and get a 154fps speed.

I have not a very terrific dynamic release (a snap shooter  could easily add 10-12 fps of more) but it is very regular (got an average 1fps of difference on the 5 shots)...the same day, during the same test, I have shot 3 others french longbows (I know that's very not scientific but it's a good base for a comparison).

There's what I got whith them, with the same 900gr arrow ....all the bows are FF, both tips protector and string silencers equiped, only the 90#@28 LB wears brush buttons, not the others.

- waka, 100#@28: 175fps
- waka, 90#@28: 166fps
- waka, 80#@28: 155fps
- A&H ACS, 64#@28: 154fps

In a few weeks I should recieve my new 70#@28 ACS. According to what I know, that should be one among the first ones produced in this draw weight and it has been very difficult for me to obtain it,of course it will be 66" long...at the beginning I whished a 80#@28 one, but it seems that the bowyers are very reluctant to go away 70#@28... I will tell you a little bit more later...

the ACS is really an excellent performer bow, but at the beginning I have been a little bit in trouble cause of the very short window sight but it has not lasted a long time...for me I have another problem: I have big hands and have the bow hand very often hurted by one of the feathers (always the same at the same place on my hand) of my arrow, so I shoot with gloves when I think to take them..

[peter c iacavazzi]

Foudarme,

Thank you for the input. I appreciate hearing from you and Thank you for taking the time to address many of my questions. I am very impressed by the arrow speeds you were able to achieve with such a heavy arrow.

I am told by A&H that they will in fact make me a set of limbs that should pull about 66lbs at my 28" draw. While a far cry from the weights I normally pull, 66 is still better than 59 (for me). While I won't be shooting a 900 gr + arrow I will be shooting at least 700 grains. Based upon what I've been learning and from all the tremendous feedback I've gotten, the 66lb ACS-CX will certainly push that 700 grain arrow with enough speed, momentum and KE to accomplish the results I'm looking for.

Please keep me posted on how your 70 lb ACS performs and of your success.

Best, Peter

[Carbon Caster]

Peter,

You could still build out your center shot with a rest by putting an extra layer of double sided adhesive behind it when installing.  The very nature of a stick on rest is going to give you a little less center shot anyway if it has a build in side plate for the arrow side to rest against as it sits on the flipper.  Good luck with that rocket launcher.

[peter c iacavazzi]

Carbon Caster,

Thanks for the advice. The rest I use is the t-300 from 3-Rivers. It has worked well for me on my recurves and other longbows. When the ACS bow arrives I plan on spending alot of time with a Montana bowyer friend of mine (Ernie Mckenzie)we are going to really spend the time to dial the bow and arrows and rest and all else in. I will certainly take your advice into consideration.

Much appreciated! Pete

[Guru]

How about ya fly me out there to be your personal "dialer in'r"....say around spring bear season...weather should be perfect for tuning 'bout that time        

[peter c iacavazzi]

Bear season opens April 15th. But doesn't get good until mid May. You know you're always welcome to come out! I was thinking about checking into Idaho bear as well. In ID we can bait. Let me nw what you think.

You aint afraid of Grizzlies are ya??

[Guru]

As long as you're with me, I ain't scared of nothin'    :mad:

[peter c iacavazzi]

OK. I'll look into Idaho tags and MT tags. Which would you prefer? My friend Ernie McKenzie from Billings is also interested in doing an ID bear hunt. Ernie is a bear hunting machine and almost as good a shot as you!!

Plus we can both out run him...which is important in Grizzly country...

[Tyler Carlson]

Peter- Do you have any 300's to mess around with?If not, I think I have a few that I cut too short (they're still 29-30"), that I could bring to the MBA convention for you. I'm also going to be in Bozeman from the 16th to the 22nd, if you are not going to be at the MBA convention.

[foudarme]

Originally posted by peter c iacavazzi:



Please keep me posted on how your 70 lb ACS performs and of your success.

Best, Peter

I will do it..I have been back to the chrono this morning and make comparisons between static releasing and snap shooting...with the same 900gr arrow throw by my 64"@28 ACS (limbs' socks, tips plastic protectors, string silencers) I get 154-155 fps with static releasing and 165-168 fps in snap shooting...

[peter c iacavazzi]

Tyler,

Thanks for the offer on the 300 shafts. Yes, please bring a few to the MBA and I'll look forward to seeing you there. Appreciate it!

Foudarme,

Either way those are impressive speeds for such a heavy arrow!

Thanks guys! Pete

[foudarme]

recieved some news from LH few days ago...the final poundage of my next ACS is 73#@28...I am very excited, I can hope a consistant 75# at 29 draw length..

[foudarme]

she has arrived 2 days ago...66" long and 73#@28..shot to my draw length at 75#-76#@29, I got a 178fps speed with my favorite 900gr GTBG 100+ and my poor static release....nothing scientific, just the bow with the factory string silencers, a 7 1/4 brace height and an heavy arrow with 5" feathers and hellical flechting...the alu riser allows an amazing gain of steadyness on a long bow which is naturaly particulerly steady...and the limbs cast my arrow as I never saw it before with a so lightful long bow...really this ACS bow is one of the best...

[Bjorn]

Very impressive numbers foudarme. Pulling 75# has got to be better than 100# to achieve the same arrow speed; and you get the smooth operation of the ACS as a bonus!