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Offline TheUnatural

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Planing Help!?
« on: March 27, 2013, 12:15:00 PM »
Hello everyone, I just had a quick question about planing bamboo (though this probably applies to planing in general). I am currently in the middle of making a Japanese bow (yumi) and I am using TBIII for the glue-up. Since this bow's lams are 7'6'' and need to be only about 1/4'' thick. My question is, since I'm using TBIII and have to make my surfaces as perfect as possible, how do I get my lams to that consistent thickness and flatness throughout the length of the lamination? Also, what grit sandpaper should I use on the 'boo before glue-up to make the TBIII most effective? I've heard some conflicting information (rough vs. smooth).
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2013, 02:09:00 PM »
Why would they not be uniform in thickness and flat after running them through the planer? Isn't that what planers do?

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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 09:13:00 PM »
I don't have a planer, I'm using a plane.
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2013, 09:16:00 PM »
I would use a long 12" block of wood and sand them length wise with 150 grit.

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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 09:20:00 PM »
I would build a "u" shaped tunnel, with the sides 1/4" tall. Lay the boo in the tunnel and plane away!
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 09:21:00 PM »
Oh for glue up I would go with 80.
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2013, 11:55:00 PM »
I think I'm just going to break down and buy an electric planer at this point. Shoot, I usually take so much pride in telling people that I build bows without any power tools...
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 12:21:00 AM »
Ah shucks, if your gonna use glue ya may as well use power tools:)

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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 01:31:00 AM »
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Ah shucks, if your gonna use glue ya may as well use power tools:)
As opposed to what? Some bows require glue.
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 09:41:00 AM »
readily available commercial glues, as apposed to fish, hide, flour (gluten) or milk(lactose) glue.

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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 11:06:00 AM »
Oh, okay. I thought there was some strange sect of bowyer-purist that didn't believe in using glue.
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 11:42:00 AM »
I have an electric hand planer, and I remember it tearing a little on bamboo at the nodes. I don't know if I would recommend that.

Personally I think the best thing would be a lamination grinder. You can make one from an edge/spindle sander or using a 1/4-3/4hp motor and a 3"x3" sanding drum.

I'm thinking you could make one for $150 or less. Alot less if you find a used spindle sander on caigslist or something. Theres a million how-tos on lam grinder so I wont get into it bu tyou can find them.

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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 12:23:00 PM »
Was just messing with you on the glue and power tools. I use both a lot:)

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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2013, 11:03:00 PM »
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Was just messing with you on the glue and power tools. I use both a lot:)
It's fine. For some reason I took what you said at face value, and it lead to some confusion.
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2013, 11:25:00 PM »
Just for clarity a planer ( power type) will not make something flat. What you want is a  jointer, grizzly used to make a 4 inch one. I picked one up for 99.00 new.
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2013, 11:26:00 PM »
Depending how thin you want something a drum sander is the next option, or build one as others have said.

Or just call kennym
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2013, 01:09:00 AM »
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Just for clarity a planer ( power type) will not make something flat. What you want is a  jointer, grizzly used to make a 4 inch one. I picked one up for 99.00 new.
Is there an advantage that a jointer will have over a lam grinder?
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2013, 01:27:00 AM »
Would be a heck of a lot cheaper:)

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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2013, 01:38:00 AM »
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Would be a heck of a lot cheaper:)
The jointer or the grinder? I assume you're talking about the grinder, because I can't find a jointer for under $150.
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Re: Planing Help!?
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2013, 01:47:00 AM »
Well I was thinking about good lam grinders that go for in excess of $1,000.00.

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