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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2013, 02:36:00 PM »
HEY GUYS...

Just to be sure...

Since I have horn overlay tips on this bow I can use FF strings right?
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2013, 02:39:00 PM »
Hell No. What are ya some kind of sissy pants? Use B-50 or you and I are done son...   :laughing:
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #62 on: June 11, 2013, 02:47:00 PM »
Naw..no sissy pants here.

Just thought since I'm making a damn fine bow, using the best materials..might as well put those to the best use possible.

I know on some of my past bows I liked the feel when I switched to a ff type string.

Thought if this bow would take it I might like the feel of it this time too.

...as long as it's a safe for the bow type a deal.
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #63 on: June 11, 2013, 02:48:00 PM »
It's safe go ahead and put on FF.
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #64 on: June 11, 2013, 03:08:00 PM »
well I sure don't want to lose your guidance over it Roy..
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #65 on: June 11, 2013, 04:00:00 PM »
I like FF. I just don't tell Roy that. I've used it on ERC selfbows and it doesn't cut the tips off or anything ...

Osage, bamboo and horn are infinitely harder than ERC.
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #66 on: June 11, 2013, 04:04:00 PM »
I'll get over it, John:) I even bought some FF, but I've never used it on a bow. I do make tillering strings out of it though. I don't like it cause it makes such a skinny bow string.
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #67 on: June 11, 2013, 04:28:00 PM »
I'll try a b-50 and a ff of some sort.
See which works better for me.

Might be able to put a couple arrows through it soon.

...I tried a 12 strand b-50 flemish I had around for tillering..lol
started to pull a loop right out.

Thats why there is a knot just under the tips in the pic..lol

I may try shooting with my 80" tillering string..but I'll have to wrap the excess around the tip or something.

Not sure how that will change the feel of the bow having the extra weight down there...?
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #68 on: June 11, 2013, 09:49:00 PM »
Makes almost no difference, I do it all the time, shoot with the tillering string before i get a proper string made up.

I've got one bow that never got a real string and I hunt with it all the time ... it's got a 4" tail hanging off the bottom limb ... the extra left after tying a timber hitch.
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #69 on: June 11, 2013, 10:01:00 PM »
IT SHOOTS!!!

just 20 arrows.

but seemed pretty quick and not too much vibes.

Be able to tell better after it has some kind of grip.

but most importantly..IT DIDN"T BLOW UP!!!
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2013, 10:24:00 PM »
nice!!!
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #71 on: June 12, 2013, 02:57:00 AM »
grats carnt wait to see pics
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2013, 04:37:00 AM »
Good job. Another bow is born.

Here are some things i try to assess during the first trips to the butts. Sometimes answers to questions like these can point to adjustments needing made in tiller, braces height, or even a change of design in subsequent bows.

How does it balance in your hand? During the draw? At full draw? Does the grip pull straight back into the bow hand, or does it want to tip? How does it feel at the shot? Is there any handshock? Does it want to move, i.e. tilt forward or back, or turn sideways, etc upon release? How does it point? How does the arrow fly? How easy/hard is it to tune? Noise level? Is the tiller holding? etc...

Keep an open mind, question everything, and try to make each one better than the last.

I'm excited for you. Cingrats on your new bow!
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #73 on: June 12, 2013, 05:38:00 AM »
Atta boy, John..
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2013, 10:42:00 AM »
Thanks guys.

After shooting it a good bit, the tiller changed on me.
Had one limb showing a "D" shape at brace and the other looked like a heavy reflexed bow.

Did some more scraping and got them even again.

Went and shot another good amount of shots..around a 100 or so..can't remember the # exactly right now.

Seemed to keep tiller this time..yay

Seems to balance pretty well in my hand durring the draw and after the shot.
It just stays still.

There is a noticeable thump to my hand when shot.
Not unbearable at all...but it's noticeable.

I may well be able to tune a lot of that out with brace height adjustments...but it's strong enough I don't think it'll all go away.

Little heavier arrows would help too..they're 575 grain total and the bow is about 51#..kinda light for me.

SEEMS TO BE pretty quiet though considering there is no padding on the arrow pass at the moment.

String makes a hummm but not bad at all.

I can hold a pretty good group..for me..with it.

I'll try to get some pics soon.
My camera got soaked yesterday..hoping it'll work once dried.
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #75 on: June 13, 2013, 10:54:00 AM »
do you have string silencers on?
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #76 on: June 13, 2013, 11:53:00 AM »
nope.

Don't have an actual string as of yet.
Just shooting the tillering string.
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #77 on: June 13, 2013, 01:05:00 PM »
might help a little maybe?
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #78 on: June 13, 2013, 02:26:00 PM »
Oh I imagine it will.
Just saying there is a fair thump in the hand.

I'm looking forward to sweetening it up!
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Re: 1st BBO...The building of Halcyon
« Reply #79 on: June 13, 2013, 02:37:00 PM »
Ifin ya thin down those big gorfy horn tips, the thump might lessen up a bit son:)
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