Author Topic: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.  (Read 1636 times)

Offline scars

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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2014, 01:31:00 AM »
Ben I have never seen a bow you built that I didn't like. Amazing workmanship. I think you must see it shooting as you build.

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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2014, 09:41:00 PM »
Thank you all for the kind words.

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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2014, 10:33:00 PM »
Looks great man. I always find is funny how shocked people can be when you make a glass lam looking bow from just wood. Killer work. Corners of your limb edges make me nervous from the pics tho. Rather sharp looking.

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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2014, 04:58:00 PM »
I just now saw this. That is a sweet lookin bow!

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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2014, 10:37:00 AM »
Wakolbinger, the belly side is rather sharp yes. I could definately round them more, but I've never had a problem so I don;t worry too much.

The backing is actually very rounded over on the corners. I stained the backing, then rounded the corners, so the edge between the stained back surface and the unstained rounded edge makes a very sharp looking line, but actually it's rounded to about the radius of about 1/8". You're right on though, always round the corners of the backing well. I guess its also safer to round the belly more as well.


Chackworth, glad you approve, I was inspired by a forward handle bow you had posted which was a nice bocote handle. I had never done a forward handle before so I drew a little inspiration from your bow.

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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2014, 10:56:00 AM »
A work of Art.
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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #46 on: February 24, 2015, 11:02:00 AM »
Though I should post an update on this one.

The oak backing served well for maybe 400 shots but eventually started developing a crack across the back of the bottom limb. Still can't believe it didn't just explode.

Anyway, this bow really got me started on tri-lams and I love it so I needed to come up with a fix. Also the draw weight settled in to about 38# after many days of shooting in hot humid Virginia weather. Lastly it was sitting at 1-1.5" of set at rest.

Three goals:
1) make it shoot able again.
2) make it huntable again (50# @ 25")
3) give her back some reflex

I calculated that I would need to add approximately .040" of limb thickness which I determined was too thin for a hickory back to be applied over the oak. I thought about removing the oak backing with heat (TBIII was used) but I was worried about complete delamination.
I finally decided to sinew the thing with 1 good course and add some reflex in the process. I strung the bow backwards into about 2" reflex IIRC, and applied the sinew with hide glue. I also added some water based leather dye into the hide glue to give it a darkened color so I could just leave the sinew with no skins or anything and it'd be semi-camouflaged.

Here are the results ...
She holds a hair of reflex at rest, probably less than 1/2", draws 51-52#@26" and doesn't explode when you draw it so I'm happy. Being as cold as it is, it's not been shot since reworking it, but will be soon. I will chronograph to determine if any arrow speed was gained, or if the added limb mass negates any gains.

   

   

   

   

No assistant, so this is probably 22" draw
   

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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #47 on: February 24, 2015, 11:34:00 AM »
Looks good Ben.

Hope your fix is in fact a FIX.
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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #48 on: February 24, 2015, 01:30:00 PM »
Me too. You can see a small fret on the belly there at a know, but it hasn't been progressing.

I can't imagine that sinew letting go, so I'm hopeful.

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Re: White Oak backed Ipe, An update and a repair.
« Reply #49 on: February 24, 2015, 01:33:00 PM »
Yeah..I noticed that too.

fingers crossed...   :pray:
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