thoughts on high end hillstyle

[MoeM]

Hey longbowyers/longbowowners,
I`m going to build a top-notch high performance straight bow.
The riser will be reinforced with an phenolic ibeam to add weight and allow a cut to center.
The limbs must be very narrow- definitly under 1" and carbon powered.
I don`t calculate stability probs with the design so no coretuff but carbon backed just under clear glass (the glassthickness I need isn`t available in blach here)
But I wonder if I shall use thiner backglass and trap the belly or use the same and don`t trap to avoid overpowering the belly.
(I made some great experiences trping the back, loosing very little drawweight and handshock while getting moderatly faster)

In my opinion version one will be better, but maybe I`ve forgotten something...
what do guys think?

[canopyboy]

I think you're out of my league Moe.  But sounds reasonable.

[Dan Bonner]

I'd toss the back glass and use carbon as the skin on the back. I'd use .030 glass on the belly and more core wood.  Toss in a couple tip wedges to keep it from whip tillering as most hill style bows do and lengthen your fades to about 18-20" and you should have a pretty fast rig.

Bonner

[M.Kerry Bird]

I'd study the bows made by whippenstik longbows he makes a fast straight limbed bow. Seems like most things have been done before so with some good research it should work out for you.

[jsweka]

That's too much head scratchin' for me.  Try and let us know how it works out.

[MoeM]

Hm thinking and headscratching is my smallest problem- I´m a stay at home dad with two lil girls so I got a lot of time for planing during my day`s dirty chores...
Harder for me to escape to my shop and not to wake em with my powertools at nights^^

[Mike Taylor2]

I think carbon is best used on the outside but I really wouldn't put it under clear glass.  Every fiber strand in the glass will show up against the black background, especially in the sun.

[canopyboy]

I thought most guys using carbon put some glass over just to protect it?

Dan, why would you make your fades so long (and working limb so much shorter?) just because of the carbon?

[MoeM]

I guess Dan meant the whole riser?! It would already be quite long for a Hillstyle.
What I don`t get is the thin glass belly with thin carbon and increased wood core- THIS will be a severe glass-wood ratio violation^^ - stackthickness for 35# is about 1/2" total, im aiming for 65#....
(ATM I was planing to use 0,8mm black glass, 0,5mm carbon, according boo cores and a 1,2-1,4mm glass for 15° trap)