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Offline Kopper1013

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What makes a bow forgiving?
« on: December 24, 2014, 06:51:00 AM »
Not sure this is the right page, just figured with all the builders over here is get the best feed back on what I thought would be an interesting conversation.

Soooo....

What do you guys think makes a bow forgiving? Easy to shoot, can handle some shooter error ect...

Thanks for your input and all is welcome

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2014, 08:20:00 AM »
Length

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2014, 08:26:00 AM »
Ditto on length, plus equal limb timing...

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2014, 09:21:00 AM »
I've been thinking on building a forward handle longbow like a Shrew but a little longer. For that reason....

Here is some reading from a few days back with various opinions.

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=141543

I'm gonna try one and see how it behaves(after bow season).

The theory is with the handle forward of fades it is less likely to torque at the shot......
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2014, 09:24:00 AM »
Lol...that was an interesting thread Kenny...

I'd say a combo of length, forward handle, a good fitting grip, well timed limbs, little extra weight in the riser, and a draw weight that's comfortable.
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2014, 09:44:00 AM »
a little bit of string follow and length.
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2014, 10:05:00 AM »
...is it wrong to say..
cams, sights, and a release aid?

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2014, 10:11:00 AM »
Well you just made the gonna get a thumpin list..  :)

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2014, 10:31:00 AM »
Tell it your sorry !!   :dunno:
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2014, 10:42:00 AM »
That's a loaded question....

Forgiving of what? Shooter inconsistencies like grip torque, string torque? Forgiving of tuning variables like arrow spine, nock height or brace height variences? Forgiving of different grip or string hand fulcrums? A book could be written regarding all of it.

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2014, 10:51:00 AM »
Come on over Roy.
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2014, 10:53:00 AM »
A tender heart? (Sorry, couldn't help myself!).

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2014, 11:47:00 AM »
Just say it Jeff......Length.... :)

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2014, 12:16:00 PM »
"Shooter inconsistencies like grip torque, string torque?"

I think this is the key, the bow does the same thing each time. Unless it blows up maybe....  :D  

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2014, 12:47:00 PM »
Yup Kenny, your bow skeered a couple deer's this year.. LMAO

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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2014, 01:48:00 PM »
Yep, poop happens Roy!  :D
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2014, 02:01:00 PM »
Just delivered two HBH. One for 28" draw and the other 26". Both approximately 45-50 ibs. The longer bow felt and performed better.  The longer bow had a smoother draw, too. I shot both bows with split finger release and three under. Even though I have a 26" release myself, the longer bow was more fun to shoot. Even when I drew past my own draw length.  So I say longer.
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2014, 02:07:00 PM »
Lol guys are cracking me up! Kenny I read that thread and that's what peaked my interest to see what else you guys thought could be contributing factors to what I call a forgiving bow
My definition: something that can handle some SHOOTER error be it a little pluck upon release, maybe a little hand torque, forces your hand into constant position.

I always had some trouble shooting my bear grizzly, when I got my BW I was amazed how the bow just seemed to shoot itself. I think a lot has to do with the Asbell high wrist style grip. My hand just seems to go where it's suppose to. I'm trying to incorporate that same grip into my next build but was curious what you guys try to build into your bows to make them more "shooter friendly"?
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2014, 04:07:00 PM »
I'm really interested in that forward riser thing. I expect it to cost a few fps tho. Not that I worry about that, if its quiet and I shoot it better, that's what I'm after!!

Can tell ya in Febuary.....
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Re: What makes a bow forgiving?
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2014, 04:38:00 PM »
I did a few bows with forward riser and they turned out to be very easy to shot. Even not so experienced shooters could get good results from the beginning.
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