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Offline jarheadjoe

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Newbie questions is anyone available?
« on: January 09, 2015, 02:02:00 PM »
I have a couple of questions for anyone who might be available

Offline BenM

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2015, 02:10:00 PM »
Just ask away.  Lots of help to be found here.

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2015, 02:18:00 PM »
I'll be here off and on for a while.  Happy to reply if I know the answers.    :)
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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2015, 02:23:00 PM »
thanks, I have just finished my first flat bow and am having trouble with the flemish string. After I tie it and string the bow and serve it, I remove the twist ties and wham! the loops let go. The last attempt, I served the loops. Is this okay as I am getting tired of wasting string? In addition, where is the brace height measured to from the string?

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2015, 02:26:00 PM »
also, Is a flemish Loop or continuos loop better? and lastly, how do you post pictures on here? LOL

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2015, 02:35:00 PM »
I have to get ready for work, but any advice from anyone would be appreciated. Thanks

Offline BenM

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2015, 02:55:00 PM »
Sounds like you have a problem with your loops and or nocks.  You shouldn't have to serve the loops on a flemish string.  Flemish vs Endless is kind of a Ford vs Chevy thing.  Lots of guys use each type.  I use photo bucket for pics.  You have to upload them there then copy/paste to your post here.  Lots of free photo sites on internet.  Also a tutorial on this site to help you out. Just search for it.  Good Luck

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2015, 03:24:00 PM »
I use Photobucket, too.  Brace height is from the belly of the handle straight back to the string nock.  I've only made a handful of flemish strings and every one is still an adventure.  I don't think that serving the loops would cause a problem.  Here's a flemish string tutorial that helped me.  I still manage to screw 'em up now and then, though.

 https://www.rmsgear.com/store/pc/tutorial_string_2bundle.asp
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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2015, 04:19:00 PM »
There is a really good video on 'How to make flemish bowstrings' on the Poor Folk Bows web sight.  

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2015, 04:29:00 PM »
You are either making your twists in the wrong direction on your second loop or not making the tag end long enough.  

Try twisting the second loop in the opposite direction of what you have been doing and also leave at least 4' at the tage end.  Finally, twist the string about 20 times after you are done.

I hang a 25# dumbbell overnight to stretch them out.  You can adjust the overall length of your string by re-twisting loops or adding or removing overall twists in the finished string.
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Online Roy from Pa

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2015, 05:03:00 PM »
http://www.rmsgear.com/store/pc/tutorial_string_2bundle.asp  

You said:
After I tie it and string the bow and serve it, I remove the twist ties and wham! the loops let go.

You need to twist the whole string length together before putting it on the bow. Place one loop over a nail and hold the other end tight and twist it up till it starts to look like a barbers pole. When you start to twist it, make sure it is twisting tighter and not twisting apart.

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2015, 08:33:00 PM »
i make endless strings, but i love the look of a flemish- so i guess i use both. i beliueve that an endless is supposed to give better performance- but i think that might be purely academic   :dunno:

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2015, 09:54:00 PM »
Yeah, my understanding is that if you've reached a *very* high level of mastery, you are likely to be able to notice a real difference between the two.  But for practical shooting for the rest of us, I don't think it really matters very much.

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2015, 06:46:00 AM »
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2015, 09:29:00 AM »
Here is what you are doing wrong;

When you make your first loop and after twisting 1/2" past your tag ends, hang it on a nail and remove every bit of twist out of each of your bundles before you begun your other loop.

What is happening is all the twist you leave in the bundles from making your first loop is working contrary to making a tight twist in your second loop.

Now, after you make your second loop you will have a lot more twist on one end of the string that the other simply from making the loop. Taking the twist out of one end will add it to the other and even things out from end to end instead of having almost no twist in one end and a lot in the other. The no twist end will have a tendency to unwind the loop for you.

I know, clear as mud as explanations go.

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2015, 09:44:00 AM »
Eric is correct and that is shown in the link I posted above so here it is again.

 http://www.rmsgear.com/store/pc/tutorial_string_2bundle.asp

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2015, 10:48:00 AM »
I have used the link that Roy posted and it is a good one.  I used it in combination with a video series on youtube to learn how to make a flemish string.  If you want to watch some videos this is a good one.

 
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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2015, 11:14:00 AM »
Thanks to everyone who offered advice for my build, i appreciate all the assistance.

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2015, 11:56:00 PM »
Take all these guys advice. Once you get the hang of it it is as easy as tying your shoes.

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Re: Newbie questions is anyone available?
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2015, 06:39:00 AM »
Crit, is it true you wear slip on shoes?  :)

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