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flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« on: January 22, 2015, 10:29:00 PM »
Got a 66" ttt osage, thinking about flipping the tips, never done it. Could use some advice. How far from the ends and whats the best way? Form?
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2015, 11:11:00 PM »
I traced one limb of my recurve on a 2x12. cut out the curve and drilled holes every 4" or so. the farther you clamp the tip down the curve the more "flip" you get. no science to it.
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2015, 01:37:00 AM »
I flip the last 6 inches on a form like Kevin's.  Love how easy it is to bend osage with a heat gun.
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2015, 11:49:00 AM »
Rings are super thin should I strap the belly when I bend it?
Any pics or dimensions on forms?
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2015, 12:13:00 PM »
I made a 7" long form which I clamp the tips down after heating them till pretty warm..

 

 

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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015, 03:41:00 PM »
I use the same form that I make recurves with.  Just hold up on the clamp pressure at the tips so the arc isn't so severe.  I'd imagine you could use a plate or pail as a template on a 4 foot 2" by 6" and get the same results.  Not a bad idea to bend it a little past what you'd like the arc to be 'cuz they usually straighten out a little while the bow is being broken in.

 
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 03:51:00 PM »
I don't think you'd need to use a metal strap as long as the edges of the bow are rounded and you heat the osage long enough that it bends willingly.  I use square wood shims so the clamps don't dent the belly.
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 10:10:00 PM »
thanks for the ideas, will probably be in the shop giving it a try tomorrow.
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2015, 09:37:00 AM »
I consider "flipping the tips" to be just a little bit of correction to regain some profile from a bow setting as tillering commences.  That is in contrast to adding recurves which has a different, albeit similar, purpose.

That said, the process is the same for me.  I have several forms of differing design depending on my goals.  For flipping, they are maybe 12" long and add 1-1/2" of reflex over that span.  Use a flexible ruler to get your curve.  I use a 2x6 to make the form.

Here's is a video of me doing recurves:  

This form has a notch built into it to hold the tip.  Flipping forms don't for me.  I just clamp the tip.
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2015, 10:58:00 AM »
John thanks for the link, I am now subscribed to your chanel
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2015, 06:16:00 PM »
well I went and done it. Worked out ok.

           
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2015, 06:47:00 PM »
Warren,  Did you use that stache as a caul?  
Seriously that looks great.
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2015, 08:17:00 PM »
you really FLIPPED those. looks great
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2015, 11:29:00 PM »
Beautiful bow!!!
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2015, 12:15:00 AM »
Bill thanks for the compliment, the stach is my trade mark. it goes on the bow when I,m done

Karrow, i was nervous as heck doing it, made the form and just done it, go big or go home I always say.

4runr, thanks , I still have to back it yet, and make a string. This bow is probably going to go to a good friend of mine. He just don't know it
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2015, 11:51:00 AM »
that is one really great bow- i'll be your friend   :D  
what are you planning on backing it with?

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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2015, 12:26:00 PM »
Why are you backing it?
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2015, 03:09:00 PM »
Pat, it has super thin rings. Just the process off tillering has made a few spots look a little stressed.
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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2015, 03:28:00 PM »
Wow that looks awesome and tiller looks spot on.  Congratulations!!

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Re: flipping the tips, could use some help! added pics
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2015, 04:30:00 PM »
Bingo
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