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Author Topic: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............  (Read 305 times)

Offline Featherbuster

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Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« on: March 06, 2008, 10:38:00 AM »
I am shooting Axis 340 (9.5gpi) 29" long, 100 grain brass inserts and 250 grain head.   I can shoot at 20 yards arrow flight is perfect, but when i get beyond 25 yards my arrow starts to wobble in flight just a bit.  How do i fix this, longer arrow, lighter tip, lighter insert, what do i do?  :banghead:    :banghead:    :banghead:  

I am shooting a Bob Lee Sig TD 59@28  62"
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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2008, 12:00:00 PM »
wobble in what way?  is it fish tailing, or porpusing or a combination of both?  Is it doing it with field tips or just braodheads?
Also are you shooting in doors when you see this?  Sometimes indoor lighting will give an optical illusion of bad arrow flight.
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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2008, 12:17:00 PM »
If your arrow flight is perfect at 20 yds and goes to pot at 25 yds then it is something in your shooting if I understand your post correctly.   :confused:      :confused:

Sounds to me that you becoming anxious at the longer distance therefore there may be some form deterioration at the longer distance.

Still not sure what you are trying to say.

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2008, 12:26:00 PM »
the wobble is a small circle of nock in flight.  just with field tips and shooting outdoors.  havent shot BH yet, trying to find the right weight.  the reason i am leaning towards the 250 gr tip is there are a lot of glue on 125 grain heads that i can use with the 125 grain adapters.
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Offline Hardhed

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2008, 02:05:00 PM »
I've noticed this sometimes myself, but not always.  I think it may just be wind deflection, more so with a high FOC arrow.  The hit where they should, but wobble around the nock.

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2008, 03:16:00 PM »
Just a thought. It is a problem i had and was hard to detect and fix. At longer distance i had a problem with extending my draw lenght around 1/2 to 3/4 inch, the longer the distance the farther i would pull the bow.
once i fix it good arrow flight at long distance. Now if i could just hit somthing at long distance i would be good to go.
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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2008, 07:30:00 PM »
are the arrows hitting where you want them too?
got arrows?

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2008, 07:38:00 PM »
Try Fletching a couple with all the same color fletching and see if you can still see it. May be the contrast of colors that you are noticing at longer range.
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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2008, 08:39:00 PM »
What BigRon said,this is why I shoot all same color feathers...
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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2008, 09:45:00 PM »
I will try the fletching, to see if that makes a difference.
thanks guys
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Offline dan ferguson

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2008, 08:33:00 AM »
I had the same thing Happening to the flight of my arrows with the very same set up on my arrows, bare shaft to 20 yrds great then start to wobble. I took the 250 grn points off, added rope inside the shaft went down to 145 gn points, now I can shoot the bare shaft to 55 yards and it hits the same place that the feathered shafts hit, I,m real happy with them now.

Offline dan ferguson

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2008, 08:34:00 AM »
Also I might add that plastic tubes didn,t work well but the rope did the trick.

Offline Russ Clagett

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2008, 08:47:00 AM »
Dan, I also found that weight tubes werent the answer, but I havent tried the rope. Can you add a little more about that? What kind, what thickness, how long, how'd you secure it in the arrow, stuff like that?

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2008, 08:54:00 AM »
too much weight?????? good luck...mc
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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2008, 08:57:00 AM »
Also Dan, does the rope make the arrow any quieter?

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2008, 09:16:00 AM »
Russ I think the rope was 1/4 poly, cut flush to the back of arrow then pushed in with nock, and so far I haven,t lost any nocks and there is some noise but nothing like the tubes. My arrows are 300,s and weigh 630 grn and shooting them out of 68# longbow. and are flying good.

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2008, 09:52:00 AM »
So how much weight do you think the rope added?

this sounds really good so far. Did you glue your nocks in, or just press em in there?

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2008, 10:18:00 AM »
Russ, I just pressed them in, I have the weight written down at the house can,t remember off the top. the rope was twisted nylon that I picked up at wall mart. No more brass inserts for me, I,m going to .243 bullets behind the standard inserts alot cheaper.

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Re: Arrow Flight--Riddle me this............
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2008, 10:56:00 AM »
Thanks Dan, I'm gonna try some of that rope I think.

I'll keep buying the inserts, way too lazy for what you're talking about. What do you do, glue or epoxy them onto the insert?

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